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Old 09-28-2008, 11:53 PM   #1
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MOGADISHU, Somalia - As a heavily armed U.S. destroyer patrolled nearby and planes flew overhead Sunday, a Somali pirate spokesman told The Associated Press his group was demanding a $20 million ransom to release a cargo ship loaded with Russian tanks.

The spokesman also warned that the pirates would fight to the death if any country tried military action to regain the ship, and a man who said he was the ship's captain reported that one crew member had died.

Pirates seized the Ukrainian-operated ship Faina off the coast of Somalia on Thursday as it headed to Kenya carrying 33 Russian-built T-72 tanks and a substantial amount of ammunition and spare parts. The ordnance was ordered by the Kenyan government.

The guided missile destroyer USS Howard was stationed off the Somali coast on Sunday, making sure that the pirates did not remove the tanks, ammunition and other heavy weapons from the ship, which was anchored off the coast.

A spokesman for the U.S. 5th fleet said the Navy remained "deeply concerned" over the fate of the ship's 21-member crew and cargo.

In a rare gesture of cooperation, the Americans appeared to be keeping an eye on the Faina until the Russian missile frigate Neustrashimy, or Intrepid, reaches the area. The Russian ship was still in the Atlantic on Sunday, the Russian navy reported.

Pirate spokesman Sugule Ali said he was speaking Sunday from the deck of the Faina via a satellite phone — and verified his location by handing the phone over to the ship's captain, who also spoke with the AP. It was not possible to further confirm their identities.

"We want ransom, nothing else. We need $20 million for the safe release of the ship and the crew," Ali said, adding that "if we are attacked, we will defend ourselves until the last one of us dies."

Five nations have been sharing information to try to secure the swift release of the ship and its crew — Ukraine, Somalia, Russia, the United States and Britain. Kenyan government spokesman Alfred Mutua, however, insisted his country will not negotiate with pirates or terrorists.

Ali said planes have been flying over the Faina. It was not known which country the planes belonged to. He also said others who made earlier ransom demands did not speak for the pirates holding the ship.

A man who said he was the captain of the seized ship and who identified himself as Viktor Nikolsky told the AP that a Russian crew member died Sunday because of hypertension.

"The rest of us are feeling well," Nikolsky said, adding that he could see three ships about a mile away, including one carrying an American flag.

Both Ali and Nikolsky spoke on a satellite phone number the AP got from a Somali journalist who spoke to Ali earlier in the day. The conversation lasted about 30 minutes. Ali spoke in Somali with a central Somalian accent and Nikolsky spoke in broken English.

Russian media had earlier identified Nikolsky as the first mate, yet he identified himself to the AP as the ship's captain. It was not possible to immediately resolve the discrepancy.

U.S. Navy spokesman Lt. Nathan Christensen told AP that the San Diego-based USS Howard had made contact with the Faina on Sunday.

"While we can't get into details, I will say there has been basic bridge-to-bridge communication established with the ship," Christensen told the AP in a phone interview from the 5th Fleet's Mideast headquarters in Manama, Bahrain.

Christensen said the Navy was aware of one crew member's death, but did know what the cause was.

Pirate attacks worldwide have surged this year and Africa remains the world's top piracy hotspot, with 24 reported attacks in Somalia and 18 in Nigeria this year, according to the International Maritime Bureau's piracy reporting center.

Attacking ships has become a regular source of income for pirates in Somalia, a war-torn country without a functioning government since 1991.

Christensen said the Faina was anchored off Somalia's coast near the central town of Hobyo.

"What's on board is of concern to us as much as the criminal activity," Christensen told the AP, adding that the Navy does not want the tanks and other weapons to end up "in the wrong hands."

Christensen refused to say what the crew of the American destroyer would do if the pirates began to offload the tanks and weapons.

"It's a very complex situation and we do not want to speculate on any particular aspect of it," he said.

According to its Web site, the USS Howard has surface-to-air missiles, Tomahawk cruise missiles, anti-submarine rockets, torpedoes, and a five-inch rapid-fire deck gun.

In the latest hijacking in the area, a Greek tanker with a crew of 19 carrying refined petroleum from Europe to the Middle East was ambushed Friday in the Gulf of Aden, according to the International Maritime Bureau.


This is the Destroyer USS Howard - DDG-83 (it is the size of a frigate)
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Old 09-29-2008, 12:07 AM   #2
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Can't believe the size of the balls on those pirates...with the USS Howard already within visual range and the Neustrashimy on the way, I would expect they are re-thinking their position, if they know what's good for them...someone's going to end up dead, or sunk, or both before this is over.
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Old 09-29-2008, 12:39 AM   #3
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Insert opportunity to include my smiley
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Old 09-29-2008, 06:26 AM   #4
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Saw this yesterday,wow aren't these guys getting brave
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Old 09-29-2008, 07:55 AM   #5
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Damn, I forgot!


Actually, they are better off having the US DDG there, once the Russian ship gets there, it will be a different story.

I also wonder, what are the chances that the 5th fleet commander sees this as an opportunity to get some more "Real World" SEAL training and rescue ops.

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Old 09-29-2008, 08:15 AM   #6
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MOGADISHU, Somalia - An American military spokesman says several U.S. warships are surrounding an arms shipment hijacked by Somali pirates.

Lt. Nathan Christensen of the US Navy's Bahrain-based 5th Fleet says an unspecified number of destroyers and cruisers have joined the USS destroyer Howard within a 10-mile radius of the Ukrainian-operated ship.

The Faina is carrying 33 tanks plus rifles and ammunition that the U.S. fears may fall into the hands of Islamic insurgents fighting the Somali government.

Christensen says the American ships will remain in place to monitor negotiations between the pirates and the ship company and helicopters are conducting over flights of the hijacked vessel.

Pirates seized the ship off the coast of Somalia on Thursday as it headed to Kenya.
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Old 09-29-2008, 08:56 AM   #7
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This is interesting yet peculiar at the same time. Wasn't it just a few weeks ago that the Russian president accused the US of being behind the Georgian conflict and here the US is helping them regain their assets?
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Old 09-29-2008, 09:52 AM   #8
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This is interesting yet peculiar at the same time. Wasn't it just a few weeks ago that the Russian president accused the US of being behind the Georgian conflict and here the US is helping them regain their assets?



Yes, and it was most likely the Russians called and asked for some assistance.
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Old 09-29-2008, 10:05 AM   #9
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This is interesting yet peculiar at the same time. Wasn't it just a few weeks ago that the Russian president accused the US of being behind the Georgian conflict and here the US is helping them regain their assets?

We's nice guys!
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Old 09-29-2008, 12:28 PM   #10
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This is interesting yet peculiar at the same time. Wasn't it just a few weeks ago that the Russian president accused the US of being behind the Georgian conflict and here the US is helping them regain their assets?
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Yes, and it was most likely the Russians called and asked for some assistance.

Last time I checked, Russia & Ukraine were separate countries. I would expect that the Ukrainians are less pleased with the Russian intervention than they are with ours.
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Old 09-29-2008, 04:43 PM   #11
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There is something to be said about having a title as such:

Pirate spokesman Sugule Ali


*sigh* What an awesome fucking title..





will be cool to see how it plays out. will they be willing to sink however many millions of $$ of military equipment?? Will they sneak onto the ship and slaughter all the pirates?? Is the Joker behind all of this??? Stay tuned - same bat place. same bat time!!
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Old 09-29-2008, 05:37 PM   #12
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There is something to be said about having a title as such:

Pirate spokesman Sugule Ali


*sigh* What an awesome fucking title..

will be cool to see how it plays out. will they be willing to sink however many millions of $$ of military equipment?? Will they sneak onto the ship and slaughter all the pirates?? Is the Joker behind all of this??? Stay tuned - same bat place. same bat time!!


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Old 09-29-2008, 09:36 PM   #13
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Yes, and it was most likely the Russians called and asked for some assistance.


Did they call Sarah Palin, i mean, she is so close and well versed in Russian relations....
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Old 09-29-2008, 09:57 PM   #14
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Did they call Sarah Palin, i mean, she is so close and well versed in Russian relations....


Actually they did. It has been reported that they called her, got her answering machine, and left a message. SO they then called your Mom, but she was busy with one of your Uncles.....
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Old 10-01-2008, 11:52 PM   #15
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Somali Pirates Appear to Be Reducing Ransom
By JEFFREY GETTLEMAN
NAIROBI, Kenya — Negotiations over the arms-laden freighter hijacked by Somali pirates intensified Wednesday, and several people close to the talks said the standoff had come down to price.

The pirates, who seized the Ukrainian ship on Sept. 25, initially demanded a $35 million ransom, then dropped it to $20 million, and now it seems they are willing to settle for much less.

“It’s down to $5 million,” said Andrew Mwangura, program coordinator for the Seafarers’ Assistance Program in Kenya, which tracks pirate attacks and communicates with the families of crew members. “But this needs to be done quickly. The longer that ship stays in Somalia, the more people who are going to get involved and the greedier they’re going to get.”

“My advice,” said Mr. Mwangura, who has been involved in several hijacking negotiations, “is give these gunmen what they want before the sharks come.”

Western diplomats and Somali officials had talked tough about a military strike against the pirates. The pirates had crossed a red line, diplomats said this week, and there would be no giving in to their demands. Somali officials, in particular, were adamant that paying the pirates, especially in such a well-publicized case, would only fuel more attacks, which have turned Somalia’s waters into the most dangerous and pirate infested in the world. More than 25 ships have been hijacked this year. The going price is usually $1 million to $2 million to free them.

But the pirates do not seem to be giving in either, resupplying themselves with fresh food and water, bringing live animals on deck to celebrate the Muslim holiday of Id al-Fitr and chatting with jou