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http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps...ENTARY/10575140

What do you think?

ddoubleez

While it makes the point that WE had a mild hurricane season, it omits that japan had one of it's worst typhoon seasons...

The cooling is due to particulate matter in the air, that has actually dimmed the sun by upto 20%....

Cooling is a symptom of 'global warming'... The name global warming is a simple term for complex events.....

It is intresting that Gore is constantly brought up with this, and shows motivation.... I have posted countless other sources, such as climateoligists from nasa, to refer to....

PS It was in the 80's here yesterday, and the artic storm that his california, was hurricane strength in the middle of winter.........

ddoubleez

ddoubleez

BackdoorJesus

It's simply because most of the new breed of conservative "anti-global warming" pundits are really just "anti-liberals" and it is far easier for people to attack a high-visibility liberal personality than it is to attack scientific theory when you have little or no knowledge of the science & ramifications of the phenomena.

On a side note, I long for the days when being a conservative meant you were for smaller government and fiscal responsibility. Nowadays being conservative seems to be more about kicking ass & taking names, no matter how much it costs us all in the end.

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FinalKonek

Gore is always brought up because he made a scientific standpoint to the country about it.

They ARE bringing up scientific facts which discredit what he had presented and not just bashing Gore alone.

Yes ofcourse there will be oil companies trying to discredit, in order to stay in business. But this situation must be looked at scientifically and not by hear-say esp. from mass media.

Another source mentions what the washington post was describing:

"Scientific research through U.S. Government satellite and balloon measurements shows that the temperature is actually cooling - very slightly - .037 degrees Celsius."
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Because of modern science and improved equipment, this "cooling" trend has been most accurately documented over the past 18 years. Ironically, that's the same period of time the hysteria has grown over dire warnings of "warming."
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And so too is it an outrage for Al Gore to tell you that most true scientists now agree that global warming is a fact.

What he doesn't tell you is that almost 500 scientists from around the world signed the Heidleburg Appeal in 1992 just prior to the Earth Summit in Rio de Janeiro, expressing their doubts and begging the delegates not to bind the world to any dire treaties based on global warming. Today that figure has grown to over 4000.

He also doesn't tell you that recently a Gallup Poll of eminent North American climatologists showed that 83 percent of them debunked the global warming theory.

And the deceit knows no bounds. The United Nations released a report at the end of 1996 saying Global Warming was a fact, yet before releasing the report two key paragraphs were deleted from the final draft.

Those two paragraphs, written by the scientists who did the actual scientific analysis said:

1. "none of the studies cited above has shown clear evidence that we can attribute the observed climate changes to increases in greenhouse gases."

2. "no study to date has positively attributed all or part of the climate change to ...man-made causes."

Global warming is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the people of the world - bar none. "

To read more visit http://www.americanpolicy.org/un/thereisnoglobal.htm

93crawler

I'm not going to argue with you about this, not because I don't agree with it, but because you have already made up your mind about this supposed "myth." However, after having read what the "American Policy" website was about, I believe it's just a Republican fronted attack group similar to the Project for a New American Century group, trying to get the parties message out.

What I will say is that even if you think global warming is a "myth," this doesn't mean that you can't do things that help combat this so-called myth, by helping yourself, and the environment. I'm talking about saving money here, everything from changing light bulbs, insulating your house, recycling, buying energy efficient appliances, buying cars and trucks that get better gas mileage, etc. I know Republicans love their money, and these and others are several ways of saving your own money. Let's face it, air quality in major metropolitan areas is just getting worse, and volcanoes aren't causing it. This has led to several diseases increasing in number, asthma for instance. If you don't believe in the so-called myth, then believe in your right to clean air and water, for which you can thank the enviro-nazis, or tree-huggers or whatever the term may now be.

Some people may have forgotten this, but the Republican party was originally the environmentally friendly party. Nixon created the EPA in the 1970's, and Bush Sr., signed the clean air act into law. I don't believe for one bit that there are over 4000 scientists around the globe that think global warming is false. You had a post a while ago, about what I don't remember, but you gave several sources in the post and all of them turned out to be bogus--I'm wondering if that is the case here. The Washington Post is a well-known conservative newspaper, and I already talked about the American Policy website.

koniec

why do people say global warming?? its impossible to measure an average global temperature. in the north pole you got -40c and in the middle east you got +50c on the same day. the deviation is too high between to the two therefore you cant create an average global temperature that you can compare from previous years. CLIMATE CHANGE is the more appropriate term. Some places are getting colder on the earth while others are warming. Climate change isnt fake and has been happening since the beginning of earths time even before humans figured out that burning the juices of dino bones can make work. Its all politics. People arnt worried about the earth they are more worried about $$ and themselves. The earth will still be here after humans are and will repair itself. Scientific data has proven that the earth can heal. The greed that humans have for money cant be cured however.

CD

Ironically, Republicans are the party that talks about trickle down economics and how if you give the rich a lot of money, that goes into the economy. So this environmental movement means new jobs, new technology to buy (energy efficient stuff) which SHOULD stimulate the economy. Yet Republicans, for the most part, want to say global warming is a myth, and you should continue to use the same old cheap, high polluting stuff you have been using.

Does anyone else see this and wonder "what the fuck?"

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ddoubleez

Evidence of Twentieth Century Global Warming

Warming of the Troposphere


The latest report on U.S. emissions found that 2004 marked the highest annual total of heat-trapping gases released since record keeping began in 1990


A 2005 re-analysis of satellite observations of temperature trends in the troposphere—the layer of atmosphere extending about five miles up from Earth's surface—uncovered errors in previous studies. The updated studies show that air temperatures have increased in the past 20 years or so, consistent with the fundamental understanding that increases in surface temperatures are accompanied by increases in air temperatures above the surface. The new results are also consistent with recent increases in tropospheric water vapor, which would be expected when rising temperatures accelerate ocean evaporation.

By comparing several sets of data from satellites and weather balloons, these new atmospheric analyses account for drifts in satellite orbits and changes in instrumentation over the measurement period. While the corrected results represent only one of several pieces of global warming evidence, they are important in part because the earlier flawed analysis has often been cited.

http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warmin...rdtemp2005.html

ddoubleez

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The American Policy Center is a far-right wing think tank run by PR man Tom DeWeese.

The American Policy Center (APC), located in suburban Washington, D.C., is a privately funded, nonprofit, 501 c (4), tax-exempt grassroots action and education foundation dedicated to the promotion of free enterprise and limited government regulations over commerce and individuals

ddoubleez

VP for American Policy Center

Bonner Cohen headed EPA Watch which received funding from Philip Morris. He purported to edit EPA Watch as an independent newsletter published and distributed by the non-profit American Policy Center, but in fact it was a publication of the APCO & Associates PR Group, originally owned by Philip Morris's Washington legal firm, Arnold & Porter (ie A&P Co = APCO)

During this time he shared the work with Steve Milloy ("Junkman") who was running the organisation known as The Advancement for Sound Science Coalition (TASSC) which purported to be a grass-roots sound-science organisation, but which was originally a tobacco industry front (run also by APCO) pushing a "sound science" line (only their science was judged to be sound!).

Milloy clearly wrote a number of the articles published in EPA Watch, and Cohen eventually became listed as President of TASSC when it moved from being a vehicle just for tobacco promotion, to having a wider agenda, opposing government attempts at health regulation of a number of polluting industries.

A Philip Morris document states that EPA Watch was an "asset" established to assist Philip Morris achieve a broader impact than just on the issue of second-hand smoke. Another Philip Morris document argues the need to "develop a plan for EPA Watch / Bonner Cohen as expert on EPA matters, i.e. regular syndicated radio features on EPA activities." [1]

According to a biographical note in a report he authored, Cohen "joined the Lexington Institute as a senior fellow in 1999. Dr. Cohen has lectured and participated in panels dealing with environmental issues in the United States and abroad and is a frequent commentator on television and radio programs. He was the editor for Environment & Climate News.

"Together with Steve Milloy, Cohen has served as editor of American Values: an Environmental Vision, an anthology published by the Environmental Policy Analysis Network in 1996. Articles by Dr. Cohen have appeared in Forbes, the Weekly Standard, National Review, Investor's Business Daily, Journal of Commerce, Washington Times, Earth Times, and other publications," the note states.

"His previous positions include that of research associate at the Stiftung, Germany Wissenschaft und Politik (Foundation for Science and Policy)in Ebenhausen,Germany and as a German-language lecturer for the United States Information Agency (USIA), in Germany. Dr. Cohen holds a Ph.D.--summa cum laude--from the University of Munich and a B.A. from the University of Georgia," the biographical note states. [2]

Cohen is now a senior fellow at the National Center for Public Policy Research in Washington, D.C. critiquing environmental issues. [3]

He has authored profiles on several environmental groups - including the Natural Resources Defense Council and the Environmental Working Group - which have appeared in Organization Trends, a publication of the conservative Capital Research Center.

ddoubleez

You may want to look again at:

http://www.columbia.edu/~jeh1/

And here is the background on one of my stronger sources:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Hansen

FinalKonek

dd nice find. seriously, good research

however, the issue is still up in the air when it comes down to it, but that also doesn't mean we shouldn't have been taking care of the earth from day 1.
even if there was no such thing as GW