Jack_Ryan

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In the news today, no one can escape hearing about the negotiations for peace between the Israelis and the Palestinians. That these peace discussions are going on is nothing new, but for the last fifteen years, those discussions have taken on a very dangerous twist!
"I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you." Genesis 12:3
When the Lord called Father Abraham, he promised to bless him and also to make him a blessing. He promised that all nations of the earth would be blessed through him. There is the potential in Abraham and in his seed for all nations and individuals to bless them and be blessed, or to curse them and be cursed.
"I will gather all the nations, and bring them down to the valley of Jehoshaphat. Then I will enter into judgment with them there On behalf of My people and My inheritance, Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations; and they have divided up My land". Joel 3:2
This prophecy ultimately promises God's retaliation against those who have taken the Jewish people from their land, or divided His land, the land He promised to Abraham, then Isaac, then Jacob, in the last days.
What is fascinating in this verse is the fact that not only will God execute His wrath on those nations that divide His land in the future, but that God has also been active in history dealing with the nations over this issue. Below is a list of nations that have scattered the Jewish people or divided the land of Israel, or both:
1.) Babylon 606-536 BC.
2.) Persia 536-333 BC.
3.) Greece 333-63 BC.
4.) Rome 63-312 AD.
5.) Byzantine 312-637 AD.
6.) Moslem 637-1099 AD.
7.) Crusaders 1099-1291 AD.
8.) Mamelukes 1291-1517 AD.
9.) Ottoman Turks 1517-1917 AD.
10.) Britain 1917-1948 AD.

Note: Germany could be listed here as well although they did not occupy Israel.
Each one of these nations committed the same mistake, persecuted the Jewish people of Israel, or divided the land, or both. Each one has suffered similar fate accordingly, either been completely defeated, or greatly reduced in prominence.
Currently, the USA has taken the lead among the nations in forcing Israel to give up land for peace. This policy basically started in the U.S. in 1991 when the U.S. State Department drafted the Madrid peace conference, a conference designed to force Israel to give up land for peace.
The conference was to begin on October 30, 1991. That same day, the largest storm in Atlantic history, formed off the coast of Nova Scotia and started moving westward. Recorded as one of the most powerful storms ever, it came ashore on the east coast on October 31, 2001. It damaged the entire east coast as it slammed 30 foot waves into then President George Bush's home in Kennebunkport, Maine. As writer John McTernan put it in his book Israel, Blessing or the Curse, " America was put on notice by the Lord God of Israel".
The Madrid peace conference was to resume on August 23, 1992, again pressuring Israel to surrender land in exchange for peace. The same day, Hurricane Andrew slammed into southern Florida.
These type occurrences continued through the Clinton Administration and have resumed in the new Bush Administration. George Bush Jr. pledged to stay out of the peace, but shortly into his administration, he changed his mind.
In June of 2001, he sent George Tenet to Israel to attempt to implement the Mitchell Plan, a plan calling for cessation of new building in the Jewish settlements. On the same day he met with Israeli and Palestinian officials, tropical storm Allison formed in the Gulf of Mexico and moved over Texas, the President's home state, and dropped over twenty-eight inches of rain over the Houston area alone, causing over $4 billion dollars in damage. The storm then moved to Florida and up the east coast causing damage as far as Pennsylvania. The meteorologists claimed Allison as the "worst tropical storm in history".
We forced Jewish people to leave their land and their houses with the Gaza pullout - and we just coincidentally get hit by hurricane Katrina that just happened to cause a certain amount of our people to be uprooted and displaced from their land and their houses.
This catastrophic hurricane was no coincidence and no accident. We have seen God the Father release a judgment strike of biblical proportions against our country because our leaders did not know their Bible well enough to make the correct decision on this matter.
God continues to send warning after warning as we as a country insist that Israel give up land that God promised to Abraham and his descendents. The responsibility of such action rests on our own shoulders because God has warned in His Word for the nations to keep their hands off of His covenant land and has demonstrated that He is serious about that warning.

fmb

Hi Jack!

I'm sure what you've posted will draw some serious comments; to give a great post, I'll have to think about this one and come back. Something as a thought: yes, these events have happened to our country during the times the Israeli/Palestinian peace process has progressed. To convince most, it may take more examples than you have listed here. Keep it up!

joerockhead

Hmm, after re-reading this, there are some interesting points.

Is it true? Is God Punishing the American People for forcing Israel to give up land or to change?

I too will have to dig deeper and learn more.
But very interesting, that is for sure.

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GRE

hmm .. why mixing the ancient Israel's stories in the old testament with the "NON Hebrew Jews" (Khazar) which constitute more than 85% of this now a days non Biblical Zionism Israel?! first
and second the muslims in all eras protected the jews from the crusades and the Europeans persecutions ever since till the ottomans ! you guys are merely brainwashed by the Ashki"NAZI" jewish media which dominates the USA media!!

btw, jero , GOD is punishing USA for standing against his well of: prohibiting to make a Jewish "racist" political state "by a blood shed" when it is forbidden to do that before the cumming of the messiah who should gather us all and unite us. NOT Before that! as most evangelicals and Zionist Christians think!

I love Palestine NOT the false non biblical Israel because Palestine means a civilized county for the three religions to live in harmony and equity of the kind simple Jewish, Christians and Muslim people. while "Israel" is a racist foreign state for mostly converted non Hebrew Jews which manipulating the ancient Torah and try to deceive people that they are representing it when they have nothing to do with it , and when they are breaking all commandments and working against it! thats the bitter fact that Christians in u.s hate to listen to it. and that what generates all the problems and terror around us!

God is NOT a racist devil who loves the killing of the Palestinian babies by foreign communist east European Jews. and throw the Palestinians out of their homelands - just because the settlers became Jews!

the law in "Israel" gives any person who is his religion Judaism to become an Israeli citizen on the expense of the native Hebrews/Christians/ or Muslims Palestinians!! a complete chaos and injustice!!

michaeljohn

Islam's claim to the Holy Land falls on their interpretation of Hebrew scripture. See, it's like this. God promised Abraham that his seed would become a great nation, and his seed would be blessed. Seems Abraham's wife Sarah couldn't conceive. (They were both over 90 years of age). So, Abraham took his handmaiden, Hagar, and she bore him his firstborn son, Ishmael. A few years later, God delivered on his promise to Abraham, and he and Sarah became the parents of Isaac. God does say in Genesis that Ishmael would become a great nation. According to the Koran, it was Ishmael, not Isaac that was offered in sacrifice to God.

So, both religions lay claim to the region and say they are right! However, I will add this, firstborn sons are often passed over for blessing. Cain slew Abel, brother Seth spawned the lineage after. Jacob over Esau. Joseph over his many brothers. And so on....

I guess what I am trying to say is Abraham set up another Abrahamic curse to begin with by helping God out by fathering a child outside of the intended choice, his wife. That's the root of the clash between Islam and Judaism that exists today.

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GRE

lol shiiboi thanks for letting us know that the whole paragraph was copied and pasted!!

Michaeljohn there was never a big clash between Islam and Judaism when you look back in the history before the neo/false Zionism and savage movement which was backed by Britain and nowadays by the u.s!

it's really odd when you believe in what God mentioned about Ishmael, the first son of Abraham which means in Hebrew " God heard" the prayer of Abraham of having the oldest son " BY GOD'S WILL" and that Abraham's decedents "Including Ishmael decedents" will be blessed yet you are thinking that Abraham made a mistake or even God made a mistake !! by letting him to marry Hagar the Egyptian Princess!! and then to go to Mecca to build the House of God there as King James bible describes and leave his loving son there to spread monotheism in that holly spot and be their leader.

the mistake is usually done by the people "us" when we break God's laws and fight them and his will, like what we are doing now by bringing non God fearing people from the communist east European countries and let them persecute the Palestinians, kill their babies and steal their lands and put the world into almost ww3 instead of support the idea of making a civilized one Palestine for all 3 relegions to live in love, peace and harmony in the " Holly Land of the 3 religions" and governed by all of them democratically. RACISM is NOT ACCEPTED IN 2009 and NEVER BEEN ACCEPTED BY GOD!!

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