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And kill a person because they called you a name, Or made racist remarks??
hmmm... Well according to everyone defending the Jena 6 it is...

The kids who hung the nooses should have been dealt with. It wasn't right at all. But the issue at hand is now murder.. I mean sticks and stones? Now they are planing a national walk out because of it? Good idea, Turn from education, Because a couple people couldn't take the higher road, And walk away.
Everybody is racist. In even the remote way. But there are ways to be better than it. there should be a protest against the kids who hung the nooses, Not protests for defending a murderer. Murder and racism are two very different things in my book. should the punishment for using the N-Word be death? well then what about using camel jockey, Or towel head, Chink, Gook Pollock..

yellowfish

in SA any derogatory name is punishable by a jail.
here if someone killed in the name of freedom it is considered alright
like when black terrorists blew up a burger house or 2 they are not bieng charged
but when white special forces went into another country to kill the ones responsable for the bomb blasts they are murderers

see what im trying to get at is this is political not about someones rights
the minority is going to use everything they can to thier advantage
you will should loud and when you say "but murder?" this will cause them to shout louder as to drown you out

its not about right or wrong its about black and white

fmb

Good point from someone in a definitely "black and white" country. In the end, it all comes down to politics, whether local, state, or national. Someone didn't handle it at the begining (noose)? Politics. State should've been on it when it was a smaller issue, but didn't? Politics. Everybody (black, white, brown, purple, etc) is now cruising into the town to protest, march, name call, taunt, and do whatever can be done (or performed) to get the most tv time, front page notice, or whatever else will provide fame and fortune (donations, pledges, extortions, etc) for his/her personal gain. Politics.

yellowfish

look at it this way

right now there is a mass protest to get a young black guy out of jail after he murdered someone
now if the tables were turned and it was a black boy in the morge and a white boy in jail those same damn protesters would be outside the court shouting for vengence

ddoubleez

I am not sure if you all have all the details.... First no one was murdered.....
They are protesting, because they attempted to handle this legally.... The proceedings were not fair.....

It was an all white jury, for an all black defence...

The student involved in the 'attempted murder' was released from the hospital the same day and attended a dance.... I would say if 6 people really wanted you dead, you would not be socializing the same day....

There were several events leading up to this.....

One was a WHITE KID pulled a gun on a few of BLACK kids at a gas station.... The black kids wrestled the WHITE kid to the ground and disarmed him before calling the cops..... The black kids were arrested for stealing the firearm.....

The courts went out of their way to keep the white kids as minors (only adults can be charged with a hate crime), and has pushed for the blacks to be treated as adults so they could have stronger sentences.

The school board tried to handle the case the first time around and the District Attorney stepped in and stopped the schools actions.......

ALL THEY ARE ASKING FOR IS A FAIR TRIAL...........

And the sentences are being overturned already, because of how racially motivated it is........

I don't agree with anytype of violence, but when you allow people no proper recource, they WILL take the law in to their hands....

yellowfish

ok i was not with the full facts
tx now i see what all the fuss is

why did the whitey pull the gun?

and if you are old enough to carry a gun you are old enough to tried as an adult
i find it wrong to be able to take a life but not be responsible for your actions
but on the same side in SA if you disarm a criminal violently you go to jail
end of story
the only ones here allowed to stop criminals are cops
considering we got 25000 cops for a population that none can even monitor or count accurately we have a problem

there are people in SA who stopped an attacker and wrestled their gun from them and the attacker got shot. the victim is in jail.

so i think absolutely everyone here is in the wrong
from the law to the white guy to the 6 people on trail

ddoubleez

There had been a lot of racial tention for a while..... They were in the middle of a desegragation project........ Yes, desegragation in 2007........

The tree that the nooses were under was one of the last stands that the highschoolers were taking..... Historically and up to the present it was all white... The black kids involved accually asked permission from the principal.....

The laws, here in the states, still allow self defence.... In fact, if you were careful, you could ask someone into your home, and shoot them in the back while they help you move, and you may get away with it if there are no whitnesses...... You would just have to convence the cops you walked in while someone was stealing you shit....

I, however, do support the ownership of guns, we just need to reinforce the present laws and systems........

ddoubleez

By the way, houston has a population of 4 million and their are only 4,000 HPD (houston police department) police men........

yellowfish

so what did the school do about the noose on the tree
i think this situation all balances on how that incident was handled
surely that is a personal threat and prosecutable by law?

maggiesdragons

there are many time where somethings could have been prevented if just one person would stop and think about what is going on in around them. I think that too many people just get way to upset to think and if they would quit blaming things on everyone else and just took a look at their own responsibility that it would solve a bunch of issues going on in the world.

fmb

Good points and thanks to those clarifying this issue. As Maggie said, this may have been minimized if those with authority (and responsibility) did what he/she was expected to; however, this did not happen, and you can see what the results were.

It is amazing this type of bullshit continues to happen. As Forrest Gump said, "Stupid is as stupid does". Geez. Grow up, people. How will you ever hold a job with white/black folks in your work group? What if this white/black person is your supervisor? DUH!!

ddoubleez

The Jena Six case has sparked protests by those who believe that the arrests and the subsequent charges were excessive and racially discriminatory, alleging a lack of arrests and serious charges against white youths in Jena in earlier incidents in the town. U.S. Attorney Donald Washington—an African American and a Bush appointee — who led an investigation into events in the town, has concluded that there is no evidence of unfair prosecution.

With the advice of the attorney general, the school dismissed it as a harmless prank.....

Students attempt to address school board
On September 10, 2006, black students and their parents attempted to address the school board concerning the recent events but were refused because the board was of the opinion that the noose incident had been adequately resolved.

Fair Barn party incident

On Friday, December 1, 2006, there was a private party, attended mostly by whites but with some blacks, at the Jena Fair Barn. Five black youths, including 16-year-old Robert Bailey, Jr., attempted to enter the party at about 11 p.m. According to U.S. Attorney Washington, they were told by a woman that no one was allowed inside without an invitation. The five youths persisted, stating that some friends were already in attendance at the party. A white man, who was not a student, then jumped in front of the woman and a fight ensued. After the fight broke up, the woman told both the white man and five black youths to leave the party. Once outside, the black students were involved in another fight with a group of white men, who were not students. Police were called to investigate. Justin Sloan, a white male, was charged with simple battery for his role in the fight and was put on probation. Bailey later stated that one of the white men broke a beer bottle over his head, but there were no official records of Bailey receiving medical treatment.


Convenience store incident

The "Gotta Go" convenience store in Jena, Louisiana.On Saturday, December 2, 2006, another incident involving Bailey occurred at a local convenience store. A white student who had attended the Fair Barn party encountered Bailey and several friends. Reports from the involved parties are conflicting, but indicate that an argument occurred, the white student produced a shotgun from his pickup truck, and that the gun was ultimately taken from him by Bailey and his friends. Local police reported that the accounts of the white student and black students contradicted each other and formed a report based on testimony taken from eyewitnesses. The white student claimed that Bailey and his friends shouted and ran after him, that he ran to get his gun, and that the students wrestled it away from him. According to the black students, as they left the convenience store, they were confronted by the white student with a shotgun. They stated they wrestled the gun away from him and fled the scene. After hearing from an uninvolved witness of unspecified race, the police charged Bailey and two others with three counts: theft of a firearm, second-degree robbery, and disturbing the peace. The white student who produced the weapon was not charged.

PurpleButton

I don't think it is no way okay what the Jena 6 did. It's the punishment not fitting the crime that is the problem. Also, the fact that the white kids involved in the issue that started the controversy have received no repercussions. no one is right in this situation. but it can be handled much better from the justice system.

Devone16

I really hate racism sometimes. Like many of you here, I have been deployed a few times, and have had a chance to feel racism deep in my heart. I am not talking about this lame racism that we have in the US. I'm talking about shooting up a whole village and not caring if you shoot a kid in the face because that is just one less terrorist in the world. It took alot to refrain myself and remember that they are human and have thoughts and feelings too. My last deployment I spent more time with a small nuber of individuals in one province. I got to know them, their family members, and their daily routines. I understand them alot better, and I am proud of myself for not succumbing to the natural desires and fears, that I had. As a whole we really need to be nicer to each other. We need to respect others differences. Retaliation the right way is sometimes needed, but committing one crime to defend another is not right.

I end with, I am a true minority. Black and educated, have a job, and not in jail. I also have 2 kids by the same woman that I have been happily married to and faithful to for 10 years. Beat that!