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Old 08-04-2007, 01:44 AM   #1
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If you like fox news, DON"T read this....

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Consider this support if you don't like Fox, but can't be sure you are right...

I am not trying to bash anyone, I am just posting some VERY INTERESTING videos:

Ok Rupert Murdoch (Mr. Fox News) was asked, at a Swiss Economic Conference if Fox News was able to shape public opinion for the Iraq agenda he said they tried by "BASICALLY SUPPORTING THE BUSH POLICY IN TE MIDDLE EAST".
Once here, at the conference:



And in an interview during the same trip in Switzerland:



If you do like Fox news, and I am not being fair I would appreciate if contributed your opinions as well....

This is admission of not only a bias, but an effort to shape public opinion on a trillion dollar war. Media is supposed to inform not persuade....
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Old 08-05-2007, 11:44 PM   #2
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Re: If you like fox news, DON"T read this....

As if we even needed more evidence of Fox News being biased...

Always great to see a new post by you. Even if it is something I already knew.
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Old 08-06-2007, 12:53 PM   #3
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Re: If you like fox news, DON"T read this....

anyone that believes Faux news needs to give it a long hard thought.
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Old 08-07-2007, 03:18 PM   #4
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Re: If you like fox news, DON"T read this....

Fox noise (thanks Olberman), biased, nah you're kidding right? Who doesn't know this that is somewhat intelligent, and rational. Good videos though, murdoch actually admitting that is his organization is not "fair and balanced," as they say every day.
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Old 08-08-2007, 10:18 PM   #5
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Re: If you like fox news, DON"T read this....

Better be careful, Fox will take over webrats and turn all of our porn into war supporting films.
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Old 08-09-2007, 10:32 PM   #6
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Re: If you like fox news, DON"T read this....

Ok, I feel this is being taken a little out of context here. He merely said that they went with public opinion, supported the Bush policy until public opinion took a downturn. BTW a side note, Fox news is (of the major news channels like CNN, MSNBC, etc.) the one that has had the least coverage on the war.
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Old 08-10-2007, 12:09 AM   #7
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Re: If you like fox news, DON"T read this....

Quote:
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Ok, I feel this is being taken a little out of context here. He merely said that they went with public opinion, supported the Bush policy until public opinion took a downturn. BTW a side note, Fox news is (of the major news channels like CNN, MSNBC, etc.) the one that has had the least coverage on the war.



From the second video:

(asking about shaping agenda) The interviewer asks:
Quote:

For example, take the war... Has..... And I am not just talking about the United States, but in terms of you having a global media enterprise, I mean have you shaped that agenda at all in terms of perceptions of the war, in terms of how the war is viewed?
Response: No... No, I don't think so.... WE TRIED....
Question: Tried in what way?
Response: Well, we basically supported our papers and I would say we supported the bush policy in the middle east... But we have been critical of his execution, but our support has not meant much, because clearly the public opinion has has grown tired of the whole enterprise.


Forgive me I don't write transcripts for a living, but that will do for my point....

You are supposed to report news, not manipulate public opinion (or try to).
He is clearly admitting supporting an agenda not reporting news, and he is so far out and out of touch, he openly admits it and just argues that it was not effective....

And my take on the fact that Fox was not reporting on the war, because it weakened its platform.... They reported plenty in the beginning and it was not until the war was obviously going wrong, thus trying to hide government short comings not inform us on them.... News is supposed to be a public service.......

How is a democracy supposed to make informed decisions, if someone that owns 33% of the media is manipulating (or trying) the public...
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Old 08-10-2007, 03:58 AM   #8
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Re: If you like fox news, DON"T read this....

Our local fox news doesnt even exist any more, they get their news from the local nbc channel... i guess the regular fox news should do the same
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Old 08-10-2007, 07:54 PM   #9
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Re: If you like fox news, DON"T read this....

Quote:
Originally Posted by GP
Ok, I feel this is being taken a little out of context here. He merely said that they went with public opinion, supported the Bush policy until public opinion took a downturn. BTW a side note, Fox news is (of the major news channels like CNN, MSNBC, etc.) the one that has had the least coverage on the war.

Makes sense to me... The war was a fuck up and they are covering it the least. Yep, that makes perfect sense to me. Kind of like how they "may" cover subjects that support their agenda, and forget to cover stories that don't sit well with the higher ups.

Funny story about Fox News... they're all Conservative Republicans. And who is getting hurt in public support over the years? They are... no wonder why they loved stories not involving the White House when Bush's incompetence was all the previous talk. It's all about diverting attention away from his utter lack of leadership and quite frankly, failure as a President... and Vice President. (Don't think I was going to forget you too, Mr. Cheney!)
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Old 08-13-2007, 03:51 PM   #10
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Re: If you like fox news, DON"T read this....

Fox News is bias to the right just like CNN is bias to the left...I do not think either network tries to hide it
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Old 08-31-2007, 01:17 PM   #11
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Re: If you like fox news, DON"T read this....

I watch FOX for a chuckle.....and then every so often i pick up a copy of TIME or NEWSWEEK to cross reference.......they are all abysmal.
The art of journalism has definitely been replaced by some sort of visual vomit, lowest common denominator competition to hold ratings at any cost. Content is repetitive, fatuous, and equivalent to an empty calorie fast food supersizeme donut....especially the hole!!
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Old 08-31-2007, 11:55 PM   #12
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Re: If you like fox news, DON"T read this....

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I watch FOX for a chuckle.....and then every so often i pick up a copy of TIME or NEWSWEEK to cross reference.......they are all abysmal.
The art of journalism has definitely been replaced by some sort of visual vomit, lowest common denominator competition to hold ratings at any cost. Content is repetitive, fatuous, and equivalent to an empty calorie fast food supersizeme donut....especially the hole!!


You can find some non-commercial news that is not as influenced as those that are owned. I agree that typical media in the us is trash, after all the word infotainment was first applied to our news.....

An example may be hard to swallow for some, but don't listen to the content, observe the style.... Fact followed by fact, opinions are kept to the minimum and the content is serious, not just a cat up a tree or the content of a dead actresses breasts.........

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Old 09-03-2007, 09:57 AM   #13
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Re: If you like fox news, DON"T read this....

I watch Fox News every weekday at work. We have the choice of Fox, MSNBC, and CNN.

And in our phone shop, we choose Fox.

I Have no doubt that Fox news is biased, to the right. And they are that way because CNN (Commie News Network) is so biased to the left. And MSNBC is almost as far left as CNN.

My problem is that all of them are reporting what will get them Ratings! Not the truth. They are in it for the Money.

Plus - Fox News has some of the hottest women!!













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Old 09-03-2007, 05:38 PM   #14
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Re: If you like fox news, DON"T read this....

[QUOTE=ddoubleez]You can find some non-commercial news that is not as influenced as those that are owned. I agree that typical media in the us is trash, after all the word infotainment was first applied to our news.....

An example may be hard to swallow for some, but don't listen to the content, observe the style.... Fact followed by fact, opinions are kept to the minimum and the content is serious, not just a cat up a tree or the content of a dead actresses breasts.........




You stole my thunder Deez-

I watch all of the major news channels to compare thier reporting. My assement is that they are all biased to thier political leanings. However they also tend to stick with what is popular and milk it until something new comes along.

One thing I have found out about public radio/television broadcasting, is that they put out the facts. They are unbiased from political leanings or partisan behavior. Not to say that they don't have agendas. They tend to be the Robin Hoods of the airwaves, reporting stories that wouldn't get out otherwise.

I have been listening to Amy Goodman (Democracy Now) for years now. Her show, though only on for an hour in the mornings puts out more quality news than any of the cable news companies could hope to report. She also reports stories that they wouldn't think of touching.

I remember when Clinton was President, She was just as hard on him as she has been on Bush or any other politician regardless of party affiliation.

I think you all should check out her website, democracynow.org. There are archives and podcasts available for download.

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Old 09-03-2007, 07:03 PM   #15
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Re: If you like fox news, DON"T read this....

Question:

If the news is supposed to report and inform the people, and it is using public airways leased from us to provide us with accurate information and keep our Representatives accountable, wouldn't you think, by nature, that it should be liberal? After all it is a service for the people not corporations....

And for a different point of view, CNN is to the left of most programming, but they are owned by a cooperation (GE) that produces weapons and makes money off government contracts..... I don't see a strong support for anything liberal from msnbc or cnn, I only see them telling their viewers that everyone else is more Conservative. They report very little on anything that would benefit liberals to know, they are just trying to convince people that are looking for a left point of view, that they are.... It could be argued, and it is, that the most liberal media in the US is just not as conservative as the neo-conservative sources.

All commercial news does is beat hot button issues to death.... And spend very little time on real issues........ We have a number of converging catastrophes in our near future and no news organizations will report on them, because they may slow the economy resulting in loss for companies associated with the media branch.........


AND PLEASE DON'T THINK THAT I ENDORSE ANY COMMERCIAL NEWS IN THE US!

Take plubarius' advice visit -----> http://www.democracynow.org/
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