nrenda

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ive been reading the ad. pages linked to xanaxandmore.com. and i came across a site called www.homerecovery.net. at the first sight, it looked pretty ok. to me. telling people that, treatment doesnt work or alcoholism is not a diesase and such. but when i did some more reading, ifound out that they were asking for 89$ for home treatment program and up to 60.000$ for the "treatment" in their clinic.

so i say, alcoholism needs treatment after all. i am an alcohol addict as well, trying to think of a solution to the problem...(or the diesase)

any comments or anyone to share his/her experience(s)...

Waldo

dingle says when you become and alcholic you get drunk easier. so if that has happened to you, I would look around for some local support groups. because it helps to have someone local you can call who will come help if you want to take that drink

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Daddys_Girl

any addiction is not kickable unless you want to....so think about what you really want and don't waste anyone's time unless you are truly wanting to stop...they have clinics and support groups all around this country....especially if you are like me and broke....don't just have one friend...have a whole circle and put their numbers up on the wall right next to 911 and poison control....be honest...be fair...be strong...you may not be able to do it alone but you are able to do it.

i3eeker

Actually acoholics have incredibly high tolerance levels, they can easily drink a case of beer a day. Reason being is when you get drunk the dopamean(sp?) and saratonan levels in your brain increase giving you that happy feeling. The problem is, if you get drunk too often you brain can't handle all that stimulus so it starts shutting down the receptors for those two chemicals. This is when people start building up tolerances, it takes more and more for them to get drunk. Those receptors also are what control your happiness throughout the day, so things that you do that used to make you happy won't anymore, eventually alcohol is the only thing that can stimulate those receptors and make you happy. This is when you know you are an acoholic, you become depressed most of the day and the only thing you look forward to is drinking. If you're are an acholic the best thing to do, as Waldo said, is find a support group, because really the best way is to quit cold turkey and not touch a drop of acohol anymore, until you have it under control.

Lewis

I hope I won't get banned for stirring up old shit

But I am expecting a phonecall to help me fight the dragon on my back

clinical detox of 4 or 5 weeks

wish me luck,

Alcohol & cannabis by the way

slimjim86bs

My opinion might now be loved here but you cannot be addicted to cannibus. Also no matter what anyone tells you marijuana is not harmful. Anyone have any questions or arguements against my statements please read this first. Americans really dont know the truth about marijuana. Millions are spent a year trying to "end" marijuana use but they should be concentrating more on cigarettes, thats an addiction. And as to someone saying you get more drunk easier as an alcoholic I find that to be the opposite because of growing tolerances to alcohol. Again I'm not trying to be offensive but trying to give some information to you so please if i come off as being offensive I'm not trying to be.

Remy

If you are truly looking for help with an addiction, look to your local AA or NA chapter. There you will receive support better than you thought possible, good luck

Juan.©amaney

I think addictions are things made up by people with weak minds. Dependance on a drug, I understand...which is how we go through withdrawl; hangovers, heroine shakes, etc....all processes of detox.

Last night was my 1 month sober. I was a drinker....a heavy drinker. My weeks were spent following drink specials at bars or getting drunk at home. Beer, booze, any mixture of both...along with other things.

What got me to stop? Nothing really. Just wanted to not do it for a while. am I done for good...prolly not. Why? Cuz its not that I don't want to drink forever and ever...I just don't want to drink right now. Do I crave a beer....no more than I crave other things. Do I lose sleep over it, nope. I had alcoholic symptoms; drinking alone, drinking at weird hours, fucking up a little legal wise. No se....I'm just a strong minded individual who can say no to peer pressure.

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Remy

How do you differentiate addiction form dependance? Just because you had symptoms od alcoholism doesnt mean you were/are an alcoholic. Until you reach the point where you choose your addiction over your family, you are not an addict and cannot possibly understand what they go through...

Juan.©amaney

I think that's the point of this thread. Addiction doesn't mean you have to ruin your life, leave your family and hit rock bottom. I've seen/known plenty of addicts who go about their daily lives....they just need to buy a gram oc coke every few days, or they need to shoot up every morning so they wont go puking their guts out at work.

Dependance is not being able to function normaly without taking some form of substance. Examples, head aches when you don't drink coffee, hangovers if you don't have another drink, getting the shakes and vomiting when you don't get your morning fix of heroine. In other words, when you get symptoms of withdrawls, you are dependant on a drug.

Addiction is the topic in question....namely alcoholism. I was told by many counselors that I was an alcoholic. The shrink at work labeled me an alcoholic. Doctors had been trying to get me to stop drinking irresponsibly for years. My response...I can stop whenever I want...and I did. They saw my response as the first stage of addiction, denial. I got into major shit because of drinking (luckily I have a good lawyer). I lost friends, and a gf of 6 years. My grades suffered at school. I showed up to work sometimes still buzzing. I flew over a freeway once in my old car. Hid liquor and even had an emergency beer in the car. I just really liked to drink and be buzzed. Then...I decided, no more for a while. Just like that.

Like I said...anyone who wants to stop drinking can if they put their mind to it. Its all about removing yourself from a stituation, not being alone around sources that will lead you to drink, and a lot of effort.

I just don't see the need to label alcoholism a physical disease.

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Remy

Juan, you make several very good points...however, it becomes a physical disease when you start to have physical symptoms, e.g. the shakes. I am not saying that people dont control their own lives, I am just saying that some popel cannot control their impulses. Like you said, if you go by the definition I am an addict. However, I control myself. The people I am speaking of cannot control themselves

Juan.©amaney

Maybe alcoholism really is a physical disease and I've just never been in its later states the way you are choosing to see the definition as.

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Lucky Bob

You are correct, there are no physically addictive components in marijuana. However, if one has an addictive personality (I know, some people will call "addictive personality" bullshit, but that's besides the point,) one can easily become addicted to the psychoactive effects of marijuana.

Just to point out, I'm speaking from experience. My father was an alcoholic and similarly, although less so, addicted to marijuana.

beber

I know damned well you can get addicted to marijuana because you jones when you go off of it after smoking it a long time. Don't kid yourself.