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05-21-2006, 01:05 PM
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whore
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Support the troops or move to Iraq
You need to support our military and not say their efforts are in vain. Yes they may be dying from roadside bombs or suicide attacks but that is the nature of the game in the country they are in. Defending our troops is vital because if it were not for our brave soldiers we would not have the freedoms we cherish so dear. I am so sick of everyone cutting Bush down. He had the balls to take down Saddam and get that loonitic out of the way so the people could enjoy some of the freedoms we do. Yes insurgenbt attacks are not helping that situation but our troops are there to slow that down to help those people.
I fwe wuld of had John Kerry now we would be dead beacsue he only takes the stand for what is popular at the time and plays both sides of the issue and stands on nothing solid. So Praise Bush and support the troops of the greatest nation on the planet the good old United states.
GO RED WHITE AND BLUE!!!!!!
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05-21-2006, 01:22 PM
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Back Dimples FTW!
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Re: Support the troops or move to Iraq
Bullshit.
My only question, is if you're such an obedient sheep, why haven't you enlisted yet?
Hmm...
Your kind of thinking is why things are so fucked up.
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05-21-2006, 02:18 PM
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byekurius
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Re: Support the troops or move to Iraq
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Originally Posted by adam bomb
You need to support our military and not say their efforts are in vain. Yes they may be dying from roadside bombs or suicide attacks but that is the nature of the game in the country they are in. Defending our troops is vital because if it were not for our brave soldiers we would not have the freedoms we cherish so dear. I am so sick of everyone cutting Bush down. He had the balls to take down Saddam and get that loonitic out of the way so the people could enjoy some of the freedoms we do. Yes insurgenbt attacks are not helping that situation but our troops are there to slow that down to help those people.
I fwe wuld of had John Kerry now we would be dead beacsue he only takes the stand for what is popular at the time and plays both sides of the issue and stands on nothing solid. So Praise Bush and support the troops of the greatest nation on the planet the good old United states.
GO RED WHITE AND BLUE!!!!!!
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First, thank you for supporting the military.
People can support the troops and not agree with the war or how Bush has handled it. I do not agree with the war (how long it's going on, the number of troops out there, the money spent, ect.) but since I am in the military, I do as ordered. You say that people shouldn't say that the troops efforts are in vain. Well, people are saying that cause that's how they feel. This war has caused the death of so many young troops, lasted longer than projected, and there is still no end in sight. How can people not feel as if this is "in vain"? This has been going on for so long with so little progress, why shouldn't people feel as if the war is pointless right now?
Now, as for Bush vs Kerry, who will ever know how things would have been. It's pointless to argue. Vent about attacking Bush all you want, it's not going to change the vast majority's opinion of him. Can't change the past. All I know is I wouldn't want to be the one making all the decisions for this country.
Support the troops, let them know you are thankful for the sacrifices that they make because they have to as a part of their job, not because they personally believe in the war. I know most people understand that, but there are some that are stupid enough to think that every person in the military is the jarhead Rambo type that just want to do the work of the devil (like those protesting at soldier's funerals).
And the Dr brought up a good point, why are you not in the military?
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05-21-2006, 02:18 PM
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whore
Join Date: May 2006
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Re: Support the troops or move to Iraq
my way is not messed up my friend all I am saying is our troops re defending freedom and w/o them we would not enjoy the freedoms we have today so we must support them and not say they are wasting their time over in Iraq or it is just blood for oil nonsense.
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05-21-2006, 02:24 PM
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whore
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Re: Support the troops or move to Iraq
to Cinnamon:
you brought up very good points and if i seemed onesided I am sorry I have not enlisted because I had just felt that was not my place to be for whatever reason. I am just very passionate about my patriotism and get carried away sometimes when people rip on this country or our troops and I am a Bush supporter so I am also very tired of alll saying Bush is an idiot just becasue he cannot please everyone. so again forgive my fowardness in my title just a passionate american that is all.
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05-21-2006, 02:36 PM
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byekurius
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Re: Support the troops or move to Iraq
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Originally Posted by adam bomb
to Cinnamon:
you brought up very good points and if i seemed onesided I am sorry I have not enlisted because I had just felt that was not my place to be for whatever reason. I am just very passionate about my patriotism and get carried away sometimes when people rip on this country or our troops and I am a Bush supporter so I am also very tired of alll saying Bush is an idiot just becasue he cannot please everyone. so again forgive my fowardness in my title just a passionate american that is all.
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And I respect that you realize that the military life is not right for you at the moment. It's not an easy lifestyle to lead. Many hate it and get out after 1 enlistment. I applaud your passion, but fierce passion can also fog the view. I am also tired of hearing all the bashing, mostly cause I hate "drama". Somethings could have been handled differently, but what's done is done. Just remember that a lot of people have suffered cause of this war and Bush will always be the focus for that anger since he is the president. There's not much you can do about that part of human nature.
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05-21-2006, 08:06 PM
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Re: Support the troops or move to Iraq
Allow me to just point out quick that you can indeed 'support the troops' without 'supporting the cause'...
That is all.
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05-21-2006, 09:32 PM
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Re: Support the troops or move to Iraq
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Originally Posted by adam bomb
You need to support our military and not say their efforts are in vain. Yes they may be dying from roadside bombs or suicide attacks but that is the nature of the game in the country they are in. Defending our troops is vital because if it were not for our brave soldiers we would not have the freedoms we cherish so dear. I am so sick of everyone cutting Bush down. He had the balls to take down Saddam and get that loonitic out of the way so the people could enjoy some of the freedoms we do. Yes insurgenbt attacks are not helping that situation but our troops are there to slow that down to help those people.
I fwe wuld of had John Kerry now we would be dead beacsue he only takes the stand for what is popular at the time and plays both sides of the issue and stands on nothing solid. So Praise Bush and support the troops of the greatest nation on the planet the good old United states.
GO RED WHITE AND BLUE!!!!!!
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It's a shame he doesn't have the balls to admit he made a mistake. Praise Bush for what? Who wants to be the last person to die for a mistake? Cause if it's a mistake, and you do not admit it, reject the advice of the smartest military man in your cabinet (Powell), and refuse to change your stand... isn't that murdering your own citizens?
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Originally Posted by adam bomb
my way is not messed up my friend all I am saying is our troops re defending freedom and w/o them we would not enjoy the freedoms we have today so we must support them and not say they are wasting their time over in Iraq or it is just blood for oil nonsense.
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You do realize when we got there, we took over most oil fields and yet had a few towns without troop support? I'm not saying it was 100% oil, but this is turning into Vietnam 2 and I'd rather have a President that can change his idea then stick to a failing stance.
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Originally Posted by adam bomb
to Cinnamon:
you brought up very good points and if i seemed onesided I am sorry I have not enlisted because I had just felt that was not my place to be for whatever reason. I am just very passionate about my patriotism and get carried away sometimes when people rip on this country or our troops and I am a Bush supporter so I am also very tired of alll saying Bush is an idiot just becasue he cannot please everyone. so again forgive my fowardness in my title just a passionate american that is all.
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He doesn't have to target me personally to get my support. However, when you deregulate the oil industry and they rape America at the pump; you deregulate the environment, and my kid's kids have to suffer; and you manage to give big coorporations more power then they need, I do have a problem.
I'll admit that I am more liberal then I am a moderate, but I also know better then to blindly follow one man's word. I've thought great things about both Dems and Reps in the past, because actions speak louder then words and it's hard to argue against progress. When I actually start to see progress coming from this administration, I'll start to give him credit. But until that time, I'm actually shocked his approval rating is as high as 29-35%. Like Bill Maher said... "31%? Isn't that more like a disapproval rating?"
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05-22-2006, 12:25 PM
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whore
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: everywhere and nowhere
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Re: Support the troops or move to Iraq
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Allow me to just point out quick that you can indeed 'support the troops' without 'supporting the cause'...
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05-22-2006, 01:13 PM
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bitch
Join Date: Feb 2005
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Re: Support the troops or move to Iraq
To quote Trent Lott, "You can support the troops without supporting the President." I hear very few people not "supporting the troops". I hear a great many, including Iraq veterans who feel that our troops are being wasted by a lying President.
Consider:
We went in to get WMD, but there where none.
We went to fight terrorism, but the terrorists arrived after we did to fight us.
We went in response to 9/11 even though there has never been an established link between the 9/11 attacks and Saddam.
We did not go for "regieme change" but that is exactly what we did.
We have "lbereated" people who did not ask for our help to be liberated and we now fight them because they are not liberating to our satisfaction.
We went to fight a dictator to make the world a safer place, but did not make a plan for any other dictators to make those parts of the world a safer place.
Our military is not in a position to defend US interests should the need really arise. (What would we do if North Korea decided to invade the South? What if Syria decided to attack Turkey?
The US military has missed the last 17 monthly requriting quotas. This includes the last nine when the quotas where lowered. This is going to adversly affect our millitary long after GW goes to play golf with daddy.
So, If you support GW say so. Save the simplistic love it or leave it crap at home.
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05-22-2006, 02:44 PM
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kickin it hadj style
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Re: Support the troops or move to Iraq
alright checkit...Im a soldier, been one for 6 years now...just re-upped for 3 more years.
Im all for supporting the troops, but fuck Bush...he might be the CINC, but that doesn't meean I have to like him or agree with his policies. I saw several people I know personally get blown up during my 1 year tour in Iraq. I haven't agreed with his policies since day one, and I still don't. Especially his policies on the war, when it's not even a war anymore, because he officially called an end to combat operations on the deck of an aircraft carrier....
but I do agree that we can't pull out now, we have too much invested in it, and everyone that has died will have died in vain, because the country will collapse in on itself...
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05-24-2006, 06:58 AM
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bitch
Join Date: Feb 2005
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Originally Posted by facepeeler
alright checkit...Im a soldier, been one for 6 years now...just re-upped for 3 more years.
Im all for supporting the troops, but fuck Bush...
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Facepeeler, thank you for your service. I will remember your commrads this Memorial Day.
A friend of mine served 1 year in Iraq and is likey to be sent back. He left a republican and returned a Democrat.
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05-25-2006, 04:30 AM
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whore
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Re: Support the troops or move to Iraq
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Originally Posted by jeffc574
Facepeeler, thank you for your service. I will remember your commrads this Memorial Day.
A friend of mine served 1 year in Iraq and is likey to be sent back. He left a republican and returned a Democrat.
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Between immigration and Iraq, the Republicans sure are doing a great job of converting people into Democrats. Thanks guys, keep sending them our way.
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05-25-2006, 04:52 PM
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Champion!
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Re: Support the troops or move to Iraq
I have been in the Army for 8 years now, I have served in Bosnia, Afghanistan and Iraq. I have people walk up to me every day and thank me for what I've done. I don't think that all of these people support the war, but I have yet to meet one person who doesn't support the troops.
If it were a requirement to support the war to be an American than what would we be fighting for. I don't expect for anyone to support something that doesn't make sense to them, and I must admit that there have been times when I have wondered why I keep going to crappy countries to fight someone elses fight. Then I think about the 6 men that I have had the honor of fighting beside of who will never tell their family that they love them again, and I know that this is what I am supposed to do.
I'm sure I'm not the only soldier who feels this way.
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05-25-2006, 05:50 PM
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Pennywise
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Re: Support the troops or move to Iraq
I'm so sick of hearing people who've never been in the military tell everybody else that they need to support the troops. Our current administration has commercialized patriotism, and it makes me sick to see all of this happening. I may have never been in any war, but I've done my time in the military.
And I don't need a flag pin on my lapel or a yellow ribbon magnet on the back of my car to support the troops.
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