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John McCain built his maverick image in part by being a Republican senator who’s willing to go against Big Oil. As recently as June 13, he had this to say about the petro giants: “I am very angry, frankly, at the oil companies, not only because of the obscene profits they’ve made, but at their failure to invest in alternate energy to help us eliminate our dependence on foreign oil.”

Good stuff! McCain has long stood up to oil corporations on such big issues as their demand that we open all of America’s shorelines to their drilling rigs. But, suddenly, that John McCain has disappeared. On June 16 – only three days after his “angry” speech – he made another talk in which he reversed his position. “My friends, we have to drill offshore,” he now says. “We have to do it.”

Really? Why? Because, he explains, “The oil executives” told him it would be a good thing.

Wait… I thought he was angry at those thieves. Not any more. You see, right after his June 16th flip-flop speech, he flew off to Texas for a round of fundraisers with – guess who? – oil executives! On June 17th, for example, he had a closed-door luncheon with energy honchos at the San Antonio Country Club – and walked out with a love offering of $1.3 million for his presidential campaign.

A McCain spokesman rushed out to assert that it is “completely absurd” for anyone to suggest that the senator’s switch on drilling had anything to do with oil money. Well, maybe he’s confused by the “position=money” relationship of politics, but the oil barons definitely are not. Prior to McCain’s miraculous conversion, they had not been big backers of the senator, but once they heard his new position, the money spigots opened.

As one advisor to oil companies said of McCain’s switch: “I think the industry was very appreciative.”

Wednesday, August 20, 2008
Posted by Jim Hightower

shiiboi

I'm still undecided about the election.

But, frankly I don't see a conflict here. The oil companies HAVE acted like shits. AND supporting offshore drilling will deflate the speculative bubble which has been going on all summer.

We'd be cutting our nose off to spite our face if we continue to allow oil futures to rise wildly out of control. Inlation would send us back into an historic recession AND the oil barons would still make huge profits.

You have to use logical, strategic thinking, not an emotional reaction here.

CD

This surprises you? I could have told you that oil money is hard to argue against. Hell, with the amount of money they can make with lifting the ban on offshore drilling, they could probably throw just about ANY amount to a candidate.

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CD

So when have the oil companies EVER looked out for anything other then their best interests? I find it amusing that by giving into the demands of the oil companies, this will somehow not end up fucking us in the long run. Get real.

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shiiboi

I have no doubt that the oil executives are looking out for their own interests and fuck everybody else.

I even believe that they orchestrated this whole thing to manipulate us into getting what they want.

Now we are left with nothing but hard choices. There's been no investment in alternative energy sources, so we are a decade or more away from being able to get off the oil crack pipe.

Do we 'punish' the oil companies by denying offshore drilling, insuring that oil prices will continue to spiral out of control, demolishing what's left of our economy.

Or do we give them what they want and hold back the prices while we transition? Which makes more logical sense? We've been fucked up the ass. But we can't go backwards. What's in our best interest moving forward?

CD

We say fuck you oil companies. Remember, if it gets too hard to buy gas then the oil companies lose out on our business. However, if we give in, who is to say that years from now when we basically handed them a blank check, that they won't use their money and power to turn the alternative energies against us by buying them and increasing their "cost" to us?

This is a larger example to the bully situation. When a kid in school is bullied and he has a choice to make, standing up for himself may result in his ass being beaten, but it also usually ends with the situation getting better after that. Giving in and paying the lunch money is what you'd rather us do? For how long? I say we act now and shoot them the bird.

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shiiboi

When the bully has the kid up against the wall with a knife at his throat, his best action is to hand over his lunch money so he can get away. Then make a plan to get back at the bully.

It's not just fuel for your car that's at stake. Everything. EVERYTHING. From food production to transportation to manufacturing is dependent on oil. This summer's rising prices has put us in a very bad situation. Can you imagine ourselves in 2 years with double those prices?

If you have a plan, i'd love to hear it. Nationalize the oil companies, perhaps? It will never happen.

joerockhead

Well, we all Know that Obama would Never accept Money from Big Oil and he would NOT allow Off Shore drilling. he even said so earlier this year!!!

Oh, Wait!!!!!

Senator Obama has ALSO accepted Campaign Contributions from Big Oil!!!
Senator Obama has CHANGED his position on Off Shore Drilling!!!!

Hmm, He is just like Senator McCain!!!! He took money and Changed his position!

Hell, Nancy Pelosi has changed her stance!!!

And people actually act Surprised!!

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CD

Knife analogy doesn't work. Killing us as a country would cripple them as well since they trade their oil in our currency for the most part.

Ok, there are 2 trains of thought here.
1) Allowing off shore drilling helps us immediately and prices go down significantly to allow families to regroup and plan for alternatives.

2) Not allowing off shore drilling is the only leverage we have and plays into the oil companies goals if we give in.

I'm inclined to believe #2 and let me explain why. If we allow off shore drilling and the prices go down, then oil companies get less profits per gallon. So basically, they want us to open up new areas for them so that they can make less money? Not only that but the Department of Defense claims no immediate relief, so politicians are running on platforms of relief, paid for by oil companies, when the relief is decades away. Sure.


I've said before that Obama wasn't my first choice. I liked Kuchinich and Ron Paul the most, so it's not like I'm gung ho about either Obama or McCain. Anyway, the important thing to realize is that the oil companies have a hard-on for lifting the ban, and anytime the ENEMY wants something this bad, it's usually a good idea to deny it to them. Politics however will spin this to the American public in a way that the majority will approve of lifting the ban, and we all get fucked in the long run. God Bless America.

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joerockhead

Ok, so if you are paying $4.00 and UP for one gallon of Regular, and you have to drive 30+ miles a day to work, you have some choices.
Get a Gas mizing little pos, or drive something you like and spend $$ on Gas.

If the Oil Companies pay off the Crooked Politicians (ALL of them!), we an get gas back down to $3.00 a gallon, or close to it. Saving $1.00 a gallon is a big savings to some people. Most people.

The Oil Companies are ALWAYS going to be making money!!

We need our Government to get SERIOUS about working on alternatives, and not taxing us to do it! also, they need to help make it affordable for the middle income family to be able to use!

And that is how we get back to the original post, the Oil Companies will pay these clowns off to slow that process down!!!!!

VOTE IN NEW CONGRESS MEMBERS EACH AND EVERY TIME!!! The old ones have too much corrupt power!

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