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Old 08-20-2008, 11:43 AM   #9
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Re: The Job - Urine Test

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Originally Posted by shiiboi
Oh, then of course we'll be happy to suspend citizens' constitutional rights of habeus corpus and protection against illegal search and seizure if it'll help CORPORATE PROFITS.

A company is within it's rights to make intoxication on the job, or commission of a crime outside of work hours grounds for termination. It's reasonable to ask someone so accused to take a test to avoid termination. Making drug testing a precondition of employment is against both the law and the concept of 'inalienable rights' the American Revolution was fought for.

Thomas Jefferson must be rolling over in his grave.

I don't use drugs, but on principle I don't apply for any job which requires me to take a urine test. I am a dedicated, loyal and hardworking employee and the loss to potential employers whom I didn't apply to because of their drug-test requirements has been far greater than insurance savings.

Furthermore, I have taken urine tests as a substitute for friends of mine who do use drugs occasionally. It's ridiculously easy to get away with, and I know that this goes on all the time.

It's not just heavy machinery operators anymore it's office workers and messengers and everybody else.

Some companies have begun requiring potential hires to take lie detector tests also. This is how police states get into power-- incremental erosions of civil liberties for apparently innocuous reasons.

I would beg to differ.

Making drug testing a precondition of employment could very well qualify as an expression of freedom of association, namely that the company does not want to associate itself with illicit drug users.

And the Supreme Court has held that freedom of association is an essential part of Freedom of Speech, the First Amendment.

Just as a company can deny a person employment in certain jobs if the person is not bondable, surely they have the right to decide whether they want illicit drug users working for them and representing their company.
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