joerockhead

And yet the Democrats say it will not help at all, who is telling the truth?





- do you not recall the name Clinton? Are they Republican? do they not lie??
Oh, I am sorry, democrats do not lie, they just "Mis Speak".



Hmm, Bush Sr. - and I guess that Jr wanting to change that is not a good thing?
explain to me why Bush Sr. did this.
Yet NOW, the Dems will not budge on the drilling. At All. they expect the American Citizen to "Sacrifice" - Obama's words. Yet, when will Congress (both parties since you think I only include Democrats in Congress!) Sacrifice?



ASSume

Yes, most of the spending is good. But you know they both (Republicans and Democrats -I don't want you too ASSume too much) conduct massive Wasteful Spending.



OH, well there you have it, you KNOW this for a fact.
I do not see how Bush is going to do that, since he is about to leave, but maybe before he leaves he will start it.
And the Possibility of a Nuclear Apocalypse? Who starts that?
Come on.



1st - Iran has a small navy and a small Air force. They do have a very large Army, but I am not too sure they can swim and fight, so we would not HAVE to deal with the Army as much, because we are not going to war with Iran, just opening the Gulf, and making it safe to transverse.

Russia Stepping in? Yes, that is a distinct possibility. But hell, that has ALWAYS been a possibility. Even if Iran Attacks Israel, and we help retaliate, there is a chance RUSSIA could step in.

But hey, if we put Obama in there, he will be just like Clinton and do NOTHING! And then the US and most of the free world will have NO OIL coming from the Gulf, and prices will skyrocket, countries will have massive revolts and collapse.

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FattyJJ

If you want to be fooled by saving 2-3 dollars a tank, go right ahead. As you said, 1/2 a gallon of milk. Are you fucking kidding me? Am I really supposed to be able to pay my bills now? With that logic, your willing to risk destroying our beaches and oceans, not to mention the sea life, and ANWAR, so that you can afford another 1/2 gallon of milk. I cant do that the my kids and future grandchildren, its a question of morals.



100% in agreement




Lets hope not. We cant even have successful wars in 2 countries out there already. Iran's size alone is enough to shoot that idea down, it is the size of Afghan and Iraq put together. That is the one thing that should kill that idea, for anyone with common sense.

I do know that our military is one of the greatest in the world, but I think we face a tougher opponent than in Iraq. To think that McCain would basically throw the lives of thousands of men and women into certain death, like Bush did, is scary, and in my point of view grounds for the death penalty.

Finally, what happens if they've been hiding a nuke from us? I still cant say 100% that Iraq doesn't have a WMD still hidden somewhere, I think that if they did it would have been used a long time ago, but no one knows for sure.



And then McBush will come back and say mission accomplished, then we will invade England.



My hope is that the American public will stop any war with Iran, we got fucked in the ass with Iraq, hopefully it woke a lot of people up, it did me.

CD

Probably neither... it will fall somewhere in between. However, our addiction to oil is like an addiction to crack. And my suggestion is to stop finding it and hopefully we can wean ourselves off of the drug. You push for us to find more so that it becomes cheaper to buy, and hopefully when we are buying it cheap again we can realize that it's bad and need to stop. That makes no sense when you look at the fact that every leader in the US admits that we need to get ourselves off foreign oil.



True. Clinton lied, but can you recall what the trial was about that forced Clinton to talk about infidelity? I'll give you a hint... it wasn't about infidelity. Other then that, lying is an art to a politician and you have no argument from me.



Probably because they already have a TON of land for drilling already. I don't know for certain, but this is the same father who said you cannot invade Iraq in his memoirs, because it will lead to "mission creeping". His son invades them and his father is proved correct.

You are correct though... Congress sucks. If they were on social security, you KNOW that system would be fixed QUICKLY! However, sometimes things that appear to be helping the American Citizen actually can hurt them. Case in point would be the gas tax holiday of 3 months.



During the debates, Ron Paul was the only candidate that said he would not support preemptive nuclear strikes against a Iran. He called the others crazy for actually saying that was an option. Don't ASSume it isn't a possibility when your candidate raised his hand and said it was.




If Obama's foreign policy was half as deft as Clinton's, you won't have to worry about the collapse of the world.

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joerockhead

1st of all, the area they would be drilling in that is off the coast of Florida, already has countries drilling, they can have an accident just like everyone else.
the area in ANWAR is desolate, the Caribou are not being affected by the current operations in Purdoe (sp) Bay, and most likely would not be by ANWAR.
The problem with ANWAR, is it would take a bit of time to get production from there.
the Oil prices wold drop 10-15 cents per gallon off the bat, due to the potential production, and most likely some more due to the newer volume.

folks that live in big cities have great mass transit. folks that live in the mountains have very little mass transit and need to drive. It could help them more.

and what Morals does it question?




So, if Iran attacks Israel, we are to do nothing? is that what you are saying?

I am not saying start a War with Iran, I am saying if they attacked Israel, we have to help them attack, in kind.

I am not War Mongering, I do NOT want a War with Iran. but, we cannot just say NO. and do nothing.

I do not believe Iran has a Nuke yet. They would have done something already if they had.
Iraq no longer has any weapons of mass destruction, unless they have gotten it from us. All the old ones where shipped to Syria and are buried before we invaded Iraq.
I do not have fear of those any longer.

And it is true, War with Iran would involve Russia. It would require the Brits and Aussies to jump in on our side, as well as maybe some of our other allies too. It would not be a good thing.

I have no problem with us Invading Iraq at the time, but the "After War" plan was shit. it was not even planned and that is where we got screwed. that should have been planned first. I just wonder what the world would be like if Jr. had acted like Bill C. and just left Iraq alone. Would we be better off, or would we have had more terrorist attack against us?
I do not know.

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