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Old 05-06-2006, 09:20 PM   #16
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Re: Moussaoui

I didn't know it cost that much. You have a source for that? I'm interested to know more about that.

I'm not sure you were directing this at what I said or not, but I wasn't thinking of ALL those on death row, I was looking at the cost of a life sentence/or death vs making Moussaoui a martyr.
You're right, there's been a lot people found innocent who were on death that have been exonerated. There's a guy the other day in Texas who was innocent but executed.
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Old 05-06-2006, 10:46 PM   #17
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I didn't know it cost that much. You have a source for that? I'm interested to know more about that.

I'm not sure you were directing this at what I said or not, but I wasn't thinking of ALL those on death row, I was looking at the cost of a life sentence/or death vs making Moussaoui a martyr.
You're right, there's been a lot people found innocent who were on death that have been exonerated. There's a guy the other day in Texas who was innocent but executed.


I'm against it on so many levels, but Moussaoui's situation presents another reason (avoid making a martyr of him) not to execute him. Here is a little bit of info I dug up. There is no shortage of info.

Florida:
Florida would save $51 million each year by punishing all first-degree murderers with life in prison without parole, according to estimates. Based on the 44 executions Florida has carried out since 1976, that amounts to an approximate cost of $24 million for each execution. This finding takes into account the relatively few inmates who are actually executed, as well as the time and effort expended on capital defendants who are tried but convicted of a lesser murder charge, and those whose death sentences are overturned on appeal. (Palm Beach Post, January 4, 2000)

New York:
The estimated costs for the death penalty in New York since 1995 (when it was reinstated): $160 million, or approximately $23 million for each person sentenced to death. To date, no executions have been carried out.
(The Times Union, Sept. 22, 2003)

California:
With 11 executions spread over 27 years, on a per execution basis, California and federal taxpayers have paid more than $250 million for each execution. (Tempest, Rone, "Death Row Often Means a Long Life", Los Angeles Times, March 6, 2005)

North Carolina:
The death penalty costs North Carolina $2.16 million per execution OVER the costs of a non-death penalty murder case with a sentence of imprisonment for life. (Duke University, May 1993)

Nationwide:
Report estimates that between 1982-1997 the extra cost of capital trials (over trial for life sentences) was $1.6 billion. (NBER Working Paper No. w8382, Issued in July 2001)
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Old 05-07-2006, 12:10 PM   #18
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If we killed him, he would be considered a martyr still and we don't want that. However, putting him in the Supermax prison is pretty bad. From what I hear about the prison, I would want to be dead than put in it. I guess you can't walk 5 feet without hitting a wall. Showers built in cells, minimal to no human contact. I even heard one expert say that the way its designed you won't know what direction is to get out. So I'm glad they gave him the Life in prison sentance. Even though I am in favor of capital punishment and what he attributed too would have been suitable for death.
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Old 05-07-2006, 01:08 PM   #19
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Yeah, with all the patriotic bikers and aryans in prison he won't last long. But I'd rather have him die with a shank in his gut than a big media execution. I imagine a guard wouldn't have a problem slipping an inmate a knife or something to stab him with.



You got it exactly right. Hopefully he takes it in the ass, sucks some cock and then dies of aids. Or a shanking
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Old 05-08-2006, 03:07 PM   #20
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life sentence is much more cruel than death. no contact with anyone other than guards. in a cell thats about the size of a closet. surrounded by infidels. i like the idea. no contact with his fellow terrorists. no quick death. just years of solitude. years of silence. id prefer death over that.
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Old 05-23-2006, 06:49 PM   #21
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Old 05-24-2006, 09:31 AM   #22
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wether or not we kill him doesnot matter as far as attacks go. The insurgents and the other Islamic extremists who cowardly attakced us HATE us and will attack anything they want no one is safe not even women and children. If he is found to have any involvement he should be hung. Although he would prefer that beacuse in his twisted view of the Islamic faith he thinks he will go see Allah for being a martyr,which he is wrong but that is what he will think so he would want death. WEe shoudl put him to death for justice and make him pay for the cowardly act he was involved in if that ends up being the case.
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Old 05-25-2006, 04:29 AM   #23
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wether or not we kill him doesnot matter as far as attacks go. The insurgents and the other Islamic extremists who cowardly attakced us HATE us and will attack anything they want no one is safe not even women and children. If he is found to have any involvement he should be hung. Although he would prefer that beacuse in his twisted view of the Islamic faith he thinks he will go see Allah for being a martyr,which he is wrong but that is what he will think so he would want death. WEe shoudl put him to death for justice and make him pay for the cowardly act he was involved in if that ends up being the case.


You seem to be the most religious person on this site and on another post you were toughting the virtues of the 10 commandments - isn't thou shalt not kill one of them? Don't you see the hypocracy of your argument?
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Old 10-11-2006, 10:12 PM   #24
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I think that involvement in 9/11 means that you first get locked away without a key with all of the most depressed psychos who have nothing better to do then belittle your ass and eventually stab you, or put you in such a state of depression and anguish yourself that you hang yourself with your underwear , but thats just me. hehe
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