Celtics vs. Lakers - The Final Chapter: michaeljohn wins by concession and logic

[michaeljohn]

Originally Posted by rexhamer

But as I noted before, this statement is such a revelation. First of all, it can now be said that neither of us was intentionally lying about who won, considering our differing positions on winning a debate. But what is really more intriguing is this:

With this revelation, it is quite possible that you have NEVER actually won an Internet debate, but merely outlasted all of your opponents with Argumentum ad Nauseum!

I won them all, been at them for years. If you can't refute what someone says, you lose. You have not refuted my refutations to your blog. I refuted this thread, twice now. People quit debates when they can't answer their opponent, because they lost. As I noted here before today's discussion commenced, you have a lot on your plate that you never addressed. 2 months running now on much of it. you had a chance to address it all, but instead chose a path of more flawed logic.



It also explains why you have been practically begging me to refute Blog 5(MJ), because you realize that, despite all the evidence supporting the Celtics, you can keep your hopes of winning (in your estimation) alive just by continuing the debate endlessly. It also explains so many of your statements. I will only note a few.

I call bullshit on your logic here. What I say is true. You have chosen not to try to refute me, because if you cou'ld have, you would have. Your credibility has flown right out the window here since all you have done is spun 2 cases of flawed logic and continued avoidance of the issues.

Thus, now that Blog 5(MJ) has been refuted along with your objections to the tabulations, in summary we have the following irrefutable facts:

Brilliant! You still insist you have refuted things you never addressed! Those you did in Blog 5 (MJ) here have been refuted.So, your irrefutable facts statement died quickly. I'll stick a few more nails in the coffin.

1. We have both made our presentations through five lengthy and comprehensive blogs.
True (We agree on something, yay!)
2. We have both rested our cases.
Not true, I already proved that in an early post today.
3. The debate has been judged. If we only take neutral judges from Blog 5(MJ) the tally is 5-1 for the Celtics. Overall votes are even greater.
The debate has been judged with ignorance to statistical facts, yet again (sigh). Also, judging the debate was never an option, we have no rules!
4. I have shown this is the proper way to determine a debate winner.
You haven't even come close to this, you and your logical fallacies, eplained above.
You have lost this debate – learn to deal with it!
ROFL X 1,000!!!! No my foe, you have lost this. you are losing on every count and live in fantasy land. Your fellow Celtics fans will be so ashamed of you if they see this. I hope they don't, I am not that cruel.

If you want to continue in some fashion with the most recent events and new figures under consideration (i.e., 17-15 as opposed 17-14), you must first concede that while the numbers were “17-14”, etc., the Celtics were the most successful NBA franchise of all time. That is what OUR debate was about.
They weren't proven that and you know it. I refuted your proof above and you know it, you are just in denial of the facts.
If not, this discussion is over.
Is this an admission by you to get out once and for all and say you lost this debate?
Now, on to the Hollinger and the ESPN poll!

Ok, keep in mind those aren't my polls and I am not Hollinger, so I won't be attempting to rebut your refutations of them However....Let's see if rexhamer wants to use his replies to those to toss more flawed logic at our case. See my last paragraph below.

So, let's summarize again, where this debate has gone.

I posted a blog
Rex attempted to refute it.
I refuted that attempt.
rex objected to my use of theory
I took that part out and still refuted his blog, proving plenty of flawed logic and hypocrisy.

rex still hasn't dealt with my refutations. I appear to be the last man standing. Instead of dealing with it, he crafts this thread riddled with flawed logic.
rexhamer is a hypocrite, and uses flawed logic to call me one.
He ignores what I post and claims I do that to him.

I should tabulate the instances of flawed logic he has presented, along with his hypocrisy. Gee, what about the things I had to repeat, and the things he has ignored? Simply overwhelming.

Give it up rehamer. Address what you ignore or quit, that simple. If you go off on another tangent you are a bigger fool than we know you are already. Annoy me enough and you will have a custom avatar and user title of my choice. We are not going to put up with your crap here anymore and avoidance of my refuatations of your arguments again. Period. If you don't like my insults thrown at you tough shit. You brought them on yourself, and this is after all Webrats, Fun and Stupidity at its best.

[rexhamer]

Boy, that was good for a laugh. Of all the bizarre things you said, I think "I didn't rest me case" was the best. When someone types the words "I rest my case", and then claims they didn't rest their case, it is obvious that any possibility of intelligent debate is out the window. That sums up your lengthy reply pretty well.

The buzzer has sounded.
The final whistle has blown.
The clock has run out.
The marching band is on the field.
The fat lady has sung.
The polls are closed.
The votes are in.

You lost.

I am quite aware that you will debate this until doomsday, an obvious admission of your obsession with this subject. I am completely comfortable in the manner in which the debate was conducted and judged. If you are not, that's your problem.

Rexhamer has left the building!

[michaeljohn]

Originally Posted by rexhamer

I got my ass whipped, so I am going to use flawed logic one final time and try and save face, and still try to claim I won!

Fixed for accuracy. You got beat. Live with it whelp. Good riddance to you. Thread closed.

michaeljohn 1
rexhamer 0

By an overwhelming knockout.

Oh, and one final tidbit. If my case was closed, as he says his was, how come he is allowed of make all of those posts yesterday with new information, and I am not allowed to fight back? Of course you know the answer, his logic is always flawed! No Boston blog forthcoming anytime soon until rexhamer mans up and admits he got beat. He has conceded he lost by his actions but we need to see it like this, even though we all know it:

Originally Posted by rexhamer

I lost this debate to michaeljohn

Also, since his arguments have clearly been defeated, I will in the future when arging this topic anywhere refer to the fact that 9-2, 17-3, and 14-15 have been refuted by me already, and that the defender of those notions finally decided to walk away 2 months after they were posted without ever bothering to fight them, and that he wasted those 2 months arguing every possible notion under the sun except for them. Result? He still got his ass handed to him on a platter with his new tangents.


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