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Old 12-03-2008, 03:57 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: Why is America always the UN's policeman?

Very thoughtful and true comments, supersatch. I was thinking more along the lines of the bastard returning to the community. The unarmed (mostly) neighborhood and less well trained and armed police would have to deal with him. Personally, I think the gangbangers pass on some of the lessons from battle and battlefield training to gangmembers that have not enlisted.

You are right. It is much better for everyone if gang members are not allowed into our services.
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Old 12-03-2008, 08:47 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Re: Why is America always the UN's policeman?

I do see your point, and like I said, I think it's one of the main driving points behind the screening. I can only imagine how police would react when a gang breaks into squad rushes laying down suppressing fire!

"Okay, I want the glocks over here, the prison shanks over here, and the guys with the broken bottles of colt 45 over here. Also, this time make sure you wear your ballistic wife beaters and do-rags, okay?"
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Old 12-31-2008, 03:38 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Re: Why is America always the UN's policeman?

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Doesn't it seem that every time the UN needs some muscle applied that America is called on to be the police?
I donīt want to be rude with anyone on this forum, i respect every opinion so if you read my post i hope you respect it and donīt get mad with me or ban me. After that, hereīs my answer:
Because America lives of war. Please admit it, every single war in the 20 century was in some way carried with America, because Bankers wins a lot of profit with sending troops, destabilizing zones, increasing the price of the oil, the gas, approving Constitution modifications, etc, etc. In every war you america have joines, there was always a fake reason to get involved, Gulf of Tomkin in Vietnam, Pear Harbour in WW2, sinking of the Virginia in WW1, in fact, the independence of America wasnīt about the tea it was all about because England was getting mad of you because you was loaning money without interest and in a totally different currency from the one that used the Queen.
If you donīt believe what i say, please check a very underground movie called Zeitgeist, and also check "Why We Fight". Those films represents a very different view of why America always get involved in armed conflicts.
As a corollary, if any of you are in the position of choosing between going or not to war, please think on every single trooper that are going to die in those far places, away from their families, friends, and also away from the country they swear to defend until their death. After you have thought of those guys, then you can chose if going on war is worthwhile.
Again, my apologies to anyone who could get annoyed or disturbed with my post, itīs only humble opinion.
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Old 12-31-2008, 04:16 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Re: Why is America always the UN's policeman?

Don't appologize, guy. It was a good reply and I've seen those movies you talk about. But there are many more wars than those in which the United States gets involved in. The US only gets inolved if we have political and financial interests in it.
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Old 12-31-2008, 04:34 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Re: Why is America always the UN's policeman?

America aways looks out for number 1(ourselves). There is absolutley nothing wrong with that.
So what if we start wars or get involved around the world, as long as there's a chichen in every pot and I can afford to drive to work every day.
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Old 01-01-2009, 04:51 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Re: Why is America always the UN's policeman?

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I donīt want to be rude with anyone on this forum, i respect every opinion so if you read my post i hope you respect it and donīt get mad with me or ban me. After that, hereīs my answer:
Because America lives of war. Please admit it, every single war in the 20 century was in some way carried with America, because Bankers wins a lot of profit with sending troops, destabilizing zones, increasing the price of the oil, the gas, approving Constitution modifications, etc, etc. In every war you america have joines, there was always a fake reason to get involved, Gulf of Tomkin in Vietnam, Pear Harbour in WW2, sinking of the Virginia in WW1, in fact, the independence of America wasnīt about the tea it was all about because England was getting mad of you because you was loaning money without interest and in a totally different currency from the one that used the Queen.
If you donīt believe what i say, please check a very underground movie called Zeitgeist, and also check "Why We Fight". Those films represents a very different view of why America always get involved in armed conflicts.
As a corollary, if any of you are in the position of choosing between going or not to war, please think on every single trooper that are going to die in those far places, away from their families, friends, and also away from the country they swear to defend until their death. After you have thought of those guys, then you can chose if going on war is worthwhile.
Again, my apologies to anyone who could get annoyed or disturbed with my post, itīs only humble opinion.
Heh, your over-modesty makes it hard to be critical of your opinion. Also, I think some of your historical facts are a little backwards if not outright wrong. I mean, the American Revolution was certainly not fought so that we could print our own currency.

But I think we all need to accept that every major power in the world has a history of war. It's only in the past decades that most major powers have tried to take the 'high ground' and stop pushing their territories outwards. Even at that, many countries still attempt such imperialistic expansion. And on the flipside, every powerful country has something that another country wants, whether it be land, water, resources or population. War is a fundamental aspect of human nature, and you are kidding yourself if you believe that America is the only one involved.

We are certainly involved in a lot more wars than most countries, but I don't think that means much. We have been the leading power in the would for many years, partly because of our basic expansive nature, but mostly because our flexible economy can bend and adapt to just about any thing fate can send its way. This means that many countries (even the major European powers) often request if not demand our aid. Furthermore, America spends many times more resources on humanitarian and other non-combat operations abroad. If you factor all that in, we really aren't that much more war-prone than any other country.

I suppose the exception is our take on National Security. Being arguably the leading power on Earth, we always have something being plotted against us. And we take a proactive approach towards it, meaning we often act before any serious actions have been taken against us. Being an American myself, I don't really have a problem with this, but I can certainly see why others might.
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Old 01-03-2009, 10:19 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Re: Why is America always the UN's policeman?

Man who the fuck neg repped me. What the fuck did I do. At least have the courtesy to respond thoughtfully. I mean, I don't always agree with people, and sometimes I think the things they post are outright in-fucking-sane. But I respect when people put thought and time into there posts, and I try to do the same. That's why a lot of people get rep from me regardless of their opinion.

I mean, this is the internet, but a negative rep, and you don't even bother to reply? Damn that pisses me off.
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