2nd Amendment - Slipping away

[joerockhead]

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US Gun Owners To Face Extradition And Foreign Prosecution

[supersatch]

Is it just me, or is he trying to say that the guns are getting smuggled from the US to mexico as opposed to the other way around?

This is almost as good as his "make war vets pay for their combat injury medical bill" idea.

[Juan.Camaney]

Give me liberty or give me death. I for one will not give up my guns no matter who comes asking for them.

I live in CA, one of the most strictest when it comes to gun ownership. We have been stripped of a lot of rights around here, but at least we can still own. Registering guns, ammo, whatever...as long as I can still own one. The day they tell me, turn in your guns, you can no longer have them, thats the day I go give them my guns, but not after unloading everything in the cartridges.

[Krasch]

Originally Posted by Juan.Camaney

Give me liberty or give me death. I for one will not give up my guns no matter who comes asking for them.

I live in CA, one of the most strictest when it comes to gun ownership. We have been stripped of a lot of rights around here, but at least we can still own. Registering guns, ammo, whatever...as long as I can still own one. The day they tell me, turn in your guns, you can no longer have them, thats the day I go give them my guns, but not after unloading everything in the cartridges.

We're even stricter up here in Canada, Juan. But know I'd be right there unloading cartridges beside ya.

There's enough laws out there right now to deal with gun crime, maybe too many. What there NEEDS to be is harsh enough sentences for those convicted, and for the existing laws to be properly enforced.

[drktitan56]

I served my country to keep our rights not have them taken away. I will defend my rights to the end.

[bobburgster]

I don't see a threat about guns being taken away. Granted the NRA thrives on promoting fear about losing 2nd Amendment rights.....but that is their meal ticket for raising money.

[Juan.Camaney]

Originally Posted by bobburgster

I don't see a threat about guns being taken away. Granted the NRA thrives on promoting fear about losing 2nd Amendment rights.....but that is their meal ticket for raising money.

Are you a member? Have you read any of their publications? Or are you just relaying regurgitated information from a website that is anti gun?

[joerockhead]

Originally Posted by bobburgster

I don't see a threat about guns being taken away. Granted the NRA thrives on promoting fear about losing 2nd Amendment rights.....but that is their meal ticket for raising money.

You do not see the fact that it is OUR right to own a gun if we so choose?

Lose that right.

What is next?
Lose the right to own private property?
Lose the right to speak freely AGAINST your government?
Lose your right to Vote?
Lose your Freedom?

[CD]

Originally Posted by joerockhead

You do not see the fact that it is OUR right to own a gun if we so choose?

Lose that right.

What is next?
Lose the right to own private property?
Lose the right to speak freely AGAINST your government?
Lose your right to Vote?
Lose your Freedom?

What about the right to not have your phone calls tapped unless there is a warrant?
What about the right to trial or not be locked up indefinitely?

Funny that some people argue about some rights but ignore the others...



PS I'm all for the right to bear arms, but I also think it's responsible to have a 7 day wait period and better safety mechanisms.

[CD]

Oh yeah, and all men are created equal... except women, blacks, and fags.

What? Women and blacks got their rights years ago? God God man, please tell me that fags are still unequal or I might shit my pants! Thank God I still have my guns so I can send those gays back to their makers.

[joerockhead]

Originally Posted by CD

What about the right to not have your phone calls tapped unless there is a warrant?
What about the right to trial or not be locked up indefinitely?

Funny that some people argue about some rights but ignore the others...



PS I'm all for the right to bear arms, but I also think it's responsible to have a 7 day wait period and better safety mechanisms.

Where in the Hell did I say they can tape phone calls or lock up people (i.e. Gitmo)????? Do not put words in my Mouth BITCH!

[Krasch]

Originally Posted by CD

What about the right to not have your phone calls tapped unless there is a warrant?
What about the right to trial or not be locked up indefinitely?

Funny that some people argue about some rights but ignore the others...



PS I'm all for the right to bear arms, but I also think it's responsible to have a 7 day wait period and better safety mechanisms.

Correct this Canadian if he's wrong, but isn't the whole taping phone calls thing covered under the 4th Amendment?

And as for the obvious reference to Gitmo, those are military prisoners and military law has never strictly adhered to the law civilians live by, nor is it appropriate that they do so.

[CD]

Originally Posted by joerockhead

Where in the Hell did I say they can tape phone calls or lock up people (i.e. Gitmo)????? Do not put words in my Mouth BITCH!

I didn't mean to put words in your mouth specifically. I'm referring mainly to the KKK members that quote the bible, ultra left wingers that forget the right to bear arms, the ultra right wingers that forget civil liberties, the pro war people who forget habeas corpus, etc...

Hell, I'm probably guilty of it too, but I try to compromise when I can. Case in point: I'm ok with people owning guns, but the 7 day wait prevents a lot from getting into the hands of criminals. I don't believe in abortion (especially in the 3rd trimester), but I think it should definitely be allowed for all rape/incest cases.

Oh... such language JRH... I'm hurt.

[Juan.Camaney]

CD, man, this thread isn't about conservatives versus liberals or why some people won't defend rights over others, its about the 2nd Amendment; stay on track.

[bobburgster]

Are you a member? Have you read any of their publications? Or are you just relaying regurgitated information from a website that is anti gun?

Show me a legislative bill that wants to take our gun rights away. I reread my comment 3 times and I can't seem to find where I said I was anti-gun...please show me.