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Waldo
06-16-2005, 05:38 PM
As of June 16, 2005 the Webmaster has placed new restrictions on Non-gold members. This includes insert restriction here. Though we know that this might upset some non-gold members and make them feel as if they are being "forced" to go Gold, it's still a fact that running the community costs money, and with the increase in activity and membership, this means that Webrats.com uses more and more bandwidth, and he cannot pay for that out of his own pocket.

A $5/month Gold Membership will help support the community and make sure that Webrats doesn't die. Being a gold member also allows you to have a custom user text, avatar, signature, a bigger Private Message box, see who gave you Reputation Points, view other members' User Profiles, access to the Private Adult Lounge and the Arcade. If you can't afford to pay for a membership, please consider signing up for an Ebay account or a Maxim subscription using the Webrats referral links provided on the site. The Ebay referral program will not cost you anything, it will help keep this site running and it will give you all the perks of being a Gold Member for a 1-month period.

We are sorry if the new restrictions seem a bit harsh. We hope you would think that $5/month is a reasonable amount to donate to the site if you enjoy spending your time here. It's about as expensive as treating yourself to an extra Big Mac every month.

Thank you for being a part of the Webrats online community.


links to the free upgrades
http://forums.webrats.com/announcement.php?f=7

michaeljohn
06-16-2005, 05:55 PM
perfect time to reset the arcade. they want their trophies! I know I love mine :)

throatyogurt
06-16-2005, 06:02 PM
dammit, why do you gotta make me kick everyone's butt in Curveball yet again?

Juan.Camaney
06-16-2005, 06:10 PM
:juan: GREAT IDEAS WALDO!

Car Enthusiast
06-16-2005, 06:37 PM
marry me eddie

PirateOZanzabar
06-16-2005, 07:13 PM
well i must say a big FU to waldo..... god damn why take away whats great about WR????






but i must say that i will now be forced to go gold since i now have a job (but i havn't gotten a paycheck yet and i owe lots of money to lots of diff things :cry:) ive been waiting till i get my paycheck to go gold for a while. ive said as much some were.



now that i said that ^^ i don't really know why i said "a big FU to waldo".... all well, ill just leave it in :happycow:


and by the way, when are these new rules going into affect? or is it effect?

TheMooninites
06-16-2005, 08:36 PM
if you are not gold
you cannot see who left you rep
you cannot use the arcade
you cannot view other peoples profile
you cannot start a poll
you cannot access the al
you cannot have a sig
you cannot have avatar
you cannot afford $5
you CAN see the ads
you can be made fun of by the other members
Hmm well all that seems like it should be so its all good.

But what's up with not seeing who leaves you rep, as I usually thank people for said rep so I would need to know who left me rep.

And what's with not seeing people's profiles, I mean the majority of the members here aren't gold so I guess no one's profile will be seen at all really.

Well, these new rules may force some to go gold if they could already, me personally I can't right now which is the only reason why I am not gold.

Because if I could right now I gladly pay the $5 as the perks of being gold is worth much more than $5 without a doubt.

I mean the password lists alone are worth it but when you consider all the content in the AL like the superthreads for the hot girls makes it even more worth it because if you like a certain girl all you gotta do is go to her superthread and boom all her pic's to ever come out are there practically.

Well, I like to thanks all those who make the AL so great even though I can't access in right now as I appreciate the hardwork needed to make it so great.

Well, when I can finally contribute a lil green to you WaldoŽ I will so I can get gold.

joerockhead
06-16-2005, 09:13 PM
I tell ya, being gold is the Shit!!

No irritating Ads

Easy access to the MASSIVE amount of porn in the AL!

See who gave ya REP!

Trust me, it is well worth it!!

Passwords!!! Damn good ones!!

Movies, more then your brain can handle!!

Gold is GOOD!

nikkipornoface
06-16-2005, 09:49 PM
Ah well. I guess that would be my cue to exit, stage left.

Later

Jabooty_3
06-16-2005, 10:12 PM
do I really want to pay $5 to regain my arcade championships? At this time, no.

DeathbyDrums
06-16-2005, 10:43 PM
Great Idea *goes and becomes gold now*

Juan.Camaney
06-17-2005, 01:17 AM
well i must say a big FU to waldo.....

Ex-fucking-cuse you? Fuck waldo? For what, dick? For providing a forum where you are free to speak your mind without risk of banage (BOTH). For providing different interest forums where you can meet people with similar interest (Lifestyle). For providing gigs upon gigs of filtered pron with nothing but the best shit on the internet without having to go through pop ups and give up your email to spam? For fronting the bandwitdh bill each month? For giving all of this shit for free for so long...times get tough dude. I used to do a lot of favors for free for people like work on their cars, etc. Sometimes, I asked them to hook it up with some $$$ cuz I was short...this is one of those times.


I have respect for you POZ, don't fuck it up.

DDGuy
06-17-2005, 02:43 AM
I might be flamed for saying what I am gonna say but I will say it anyhow-

I feel you guys have a right problem which you are trying to solve wrongly.

Your problem is high cost of bandwidth, so u are trying to charge members to recover that cost. There are two reasons people will find that objectionable-

1. Many guys just wanna hang around in BOTH etc. and will not pay for GOLD. I see nothing wrong in that and it will be sad if that is made fun of. Practically every pure discussion forum on WWW is totally free and I see that not changing (despite all the complaining about cost of hosting and what not...). So you need to charge for porn and not for other forums. Make a simple rule - Only GOLDs can go in the porn section, be it AL or GP. But this will need guts, all the popularity (and hence the AD potential) of WR is due to free Porn that Non-GOLD post. I mean, I find very few GOLDs doing the actual posting of porn. Most GOLDs, apart from finley and CD of course, are busy post whoring in BOTH anyway :naughty: In an ironical way, I would think that in order for you to get ad revenue you need more leechers than you would need GOLDs !!

2. The model should be "less free BW" rather than "high paid BW". Don't host any pics whatsoever (let free pic hosting site do that), that alone takes out huge BW needs (90+%, I would guess). There are enough pic hosting sites around (hell! rapid share hosts 50MB in one shot, no questions asked. I get more porn from free yahoo groups right in my 1GB+ FREE mail box that I care for!!). You can even redesign the porn posting in such a way that it works like yahoo groups, use the trillions of Meg's that Yahoo and Googles are prepared to give you free.

Don't get me wrong, I love this site and I spend far too much time here than perhaps I even should...but I am not a leecher and I would hate to be thought of as one just b'cos I might decide in future to go non-GOLD. Heck, I am sure that in last few months I have posted far more in WR than I have saved from other people threads. So in future I may have to pay to see the REP I got for it?? it sure doesn't sound fair to me....

It might help if you clarify your "vision" for this place. What are you trying to build here? -
a Free community forum with paid porn (this is what I feel you should be),
a paid community forum with paid porn (I don't think so),
a Free community forum with free porn plus some good paid porn (this is what you are now),
a Free community forum with free as well as paid porn but with different rules for paid and free members even in non-porn areas (new rules will make you this)

Shit, that above reads like non-coherent rambling so let me summarize-
1) Either make entire porn paid (position it as a different product) or
2) Let is remain like its today i.e. let non-golds be able to see reps, post polls, see other's profile, have avtaars, sigs whatever. That's the price GOLDs pay to see the porm posted by them !! I know that this argument holds as long as non-GOLD's post enough porn and for that find some technical solution (account locks up if a new thread is not started by a leecher in free GP section?)

I am done, now flame me :dunno:

acmattingly
06-17-2005, 10:44 AM
I'm done here. I've posted enough here to not be a leacher, but I don't need you to get any porn. It's too easy to steal passwords. DDGuy made many good points, my favorite is the part about the gold members being the worst leaches. Though I gotta say I love the irony on charging money for stolen porn, that's great. You've now run off anyone who actually wanted to contibute to the free part and enjoyed the rep and arcade, but didn't need to pay for the AL. All your going to get now are the true leachers.

ac

mstad
06-17-2005, 12:25 PM
I mean, I find very few GOLDs doing the actual posting of porn. Most GOLDs, apart from finley and CD of course, are busy post whoring in BOTH anyway :naughty:
What the fuck do you care where people people post on this site? I'm gold and I spend all my time in BOTH, and not in the Hotness. I'm Gold because this shit aint free for Waldo. WEBSITES COST MONEY TO OPERATE!!!!!!!!!! Just because you post porn that makes you the voice of reason?

Get off of your pedestal.

mstad
06-17-2005, 12:26 PM
I'm done here. I've posted enough here to not be a leacher, but I don't need you to get any porn. It's too easy to steal passwords. DDGuy made many good points, my favorite is the part about the gold members being the worst leaches. Though I gotta say I love the irony on charging money for stolen porn, that's great. You've now run off anyone who actually wanted to contibute to the free part and enjoyed the rep and arcade, but didn't need to pay for the AL. All your going to get now are the true leachers.

:smileyfk:

skywlker27
06-17-2005, 01:05 PM
i just dont see why u took away the arcade and that, lame way to restrict non-golds in my opinion

Waldo
06-17-2005, 01:11 PM
i just dont see why u took away the arcade and that, lame way to restrict non-golds in my opinion
arcade uses the most resources on the box

Waldo
06-17-2005, 01:16 PM
you guys are aware you can get a FREE gold but useing the ebay links.
this is what i dont understand, its FREE!!! to upgrade

skywlker27
06-17-2005, 01:17 PM
and u had to reset the highscores too so that all golds have the highscores?

skywlker27
06-17-2005, 01:19 PM
what ebay links are u talkin about?

Waldo
06-17-2005, 01:35 PM
what ebay links are u talkin about?
http://forums.webrats.com/announcement.php?f=7

skywlker27
06-17-2005, 01:57 PM
ok, first of all, how do u guys know when someone has signed up and placed a bid, also what if we already have an ebay account. just a suggestion also, u could offer some of the advantages of being a gold member to people that reup/contribute videos/pictures

madhatter
06-17-2005, 02:25 PM
I used to have AL access for my other services. Now that I'm part time at work, I can continue the things I used to do, since I'm a poor bastard. Altough, one day my AL access was gone. :sadwavey:

Juan.Camaney
06-17-2005, 03:19 PM
I'm done here. I've posted enough here to not be a leacher, but I don't need you to get any porn. It's too easy to steal passwords. DDGuy made many good points, my favorite is the part about the gold members being the worst leaches. Though I gotta say I love the irony on charging money for stolen porn, that's great. You've now run off anyone who actually wanted to contibute to the free part and enjoyed the rep and arcade, but didn't need to pay for the AL. All your going to get now are the true leachers.

ac
Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out. We aren't a fucking porn site here. So we don't have our own models or photographers or produce our own shit. We are an online community. We charge the 5 bucks to cover bandwith costs. You pay the 5 bucks so other people can do the leg work for you and all you have to do is drop a thanks, point click and enjoy. You don't even HAVE to pay 5 bucks, you can do it through ebay, or other links. They are EVERYWHERE!

There are tons of other places you can go, true. But you chose to be here for a reason and are free to leave whenever you please.

As for me, I started as a lurker, began to participate, moved up the ladder, and now, I am the second highest posting person here and a Super Mod.

I like it here, its great...and I rarely even look at the porn. I'm on fucking dial up.

mbrow090
06-17-2005, 05:32 PM
Guys, all you have to do is try out being gold. I think that once you are you won't want it any other way. I got a free month long gold account for bidding $1.00 on e-bay then sending the link to a mod. BLAMMM! !GOLD! I took seriously like 10 minutes. Now that I am gold I will most likely stay gold. It just has too many perks not to.

skywlker27
06-17-2005, 11:22 PM
see heres the thing, i already have ebay so i cant really do that offer and anything else, ur still paying. i just dont get why a non-gold member is expected to contribute and re-up, but not allowed to do a whole heck of a lot.

Waldo
06-17-2005, 11:24 PM
see heres the thing, i already have ebay so i cant really do that offer and anything else, ur still paying. i just dont get why a non-gold member is expected to contribute and re-up, but not allowed to do a whole heck of a lot.
make a new ebay account :p

skywlker27
06-17-2005, 11:26 PM
my point is, u could get more files loaded onto the site by people that other wise wouldnt if u added some kind of advantage for uploading anything

BIGMAN1986
06-18-2005, 12:55 AM
I just thought i'd post my opinion here since everyone else seems to have done the same...

I enjoy this site..and not just for the pr0n...thats why i am Gold...

and its only $5$ bucks for a month anyway....

5$ = one movie at blockbuster..

DDGuy
06-18-2005, 12:57 AM
What the fuck do you care where people people post on this site? I'm gold and I spend all my time in BOTH, and not in the Hotness. I'm Gold because this shit aint free for Waldo. WEBSITES COST MONEY TO OPERATE!!!!!!!!!! Just because you post porn that makes you the voice of reason?

Get off of your pedestal.

Buddy, I am no more on my pedestal than you are on your own. :nono: You are a witty person and so you built your pedestal by posting all kinds of smart-ass stuff in BOTH, I am not so blessed and so I build mine by posting GIG's of porn in Hotness. ....

When was the last time you uploaded a 80-100 pic set, painstakingly one by one and then shared it with fellow guys?? U have NO IDEA as to how tough is that so lets not talk about it. Our planets are different !!

I find it amusing that you chose to reply to one line of my post, which pinched you and didn't repond to anything else, which perhaps needed more grey matter. :duh:

Let me explain nice and slow to you. I have nothing againt people who post only in BOTH . (Hell, I find even myself doing that more and more). My problem is that all this measures don't penalize the lurkers who just come and leech and cause bandwidth problems in the first place. I welcome the move to block Arcade (if as Walso says that takes lots of bandwidth) but I am totally against moves that penalize pure play non-porn users (like yourself !! See I am in your side :-)). If somebody wants to just post in non-porn sections, he/she should be allowed to check rep, check profiles, have sigs, avataars whatever b'cos THESE things DON'T take bandwidth. Sure they take a basic overhead, for which you are supposed to throw ads at non-gold. End-of-business model !!! where is the question of forcing people to go gold to participate "effectively" (i.e. see rep, see profiles etc. etc.) even in non-porn??

Penalize the lurkers, force them to post (easily achieved technically) or make them pay (all porn only for Golds) but for Pete's sake keep the non-porn section like every godammned forum website in the world (you want me to name them? I subscribe to at least a dozen of them)

mstad
06-18-2005, 04:55 AM
DDGuy
My post was in no way an attack on you, allthough I can see how you could take it that way. In case you didn't notice, right after that post, I replied to a post by acmattingly too. Your post and his post together just hit me, cause since the new restrictions were put in place, alot of people have been bitching for bullshit reasons, like saying that this is just a way of bullying money out of people
Just a matter of bad timing.

As far as me replying to one line of your post, that was because you're calling people(non-specificly) out on where they post. Where someone posts really isn't anyone elses buisness, as people are free to post wherever they choose. And you did specificly point a finger at "Gold members post whoring in BOTH", which is in my eyes, pointing a finger at a few specific members. Me being one of them. Attack and defend dude, that's the way of the world.

The thing that really urked me though was acmattingly's comment that he agreed with you about "gold members being the worst leaches", which the more I read your post, I'm really not sure you were saying that. Except that Non-Golds post most of the porn in the free porn section, which may be true. I couldn't tell you, cause I only venture into there when BOTH slows down and I want to kill a couple of minutes.
And no, I'm not talking about a couple of minutes to :jerkit:, so no one needs to make a joke out of that.

I've posted my opinion on this matter in a couple of different threads, same as you. Not gonna go into length with it any more, just gonna say this.
I went Gold for the site, not the porn within the site. To me, it's just about supporting the site that I enjoy. If people don't want to go Gold, fine. Don't bitch about it not being fair. There are plenty of Non-Golds here that are great members, and will continue to be even after all this nonsense.

There, I've given more than my two cents, it's been a fucked up night for me, and now I'm finished posting about this bullshit.

Peace man, let's not start this- - ->http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/aktion/action-smiley-051.gif

DDGuy
06-18-2005, 09:17 AM
The thing that really urked me though was acmattingly's comment that he agreed with you about "gold members being the worst leaches", which the more I read your post, I'm really not sure you were saying that.



Dead right !!! I am glad that we could discuss it like two adults that we are.

I am NOT AT ALL saying that GOLD's are the worst leechers. Its the non-GOLD, non-posting lurkers who are worst leechers and something must be done to make them pay. Keeping GP free and on top of it introducing these new measures (apart from making Arcade for GOLDs) is ABSOLUTLEY not the way to do it .....that's the long and short of it !!!

vatoloco
06-19-2005, 12:53 AM
Haha, this is pretty damn gay.

polgas
06-20-2005, 07:47 AM
I'm on fucking dial up.

oh yeah! thats what i call ... "hitting the last nail on the coffin ... on the head"

Juan.Camaney
06-20-2005, 01:13 PM
Haha, this is pretty damn gay.
What is? That you have to pay for entertainment???

Mr. Bowler
06-20-2005, 02:01 PM
What is? That you have to pay for entertainment???

/me points and laughs - your still on dialup :eddie:

As for these rules:
if you are not gold
you cannot see who left you rep
you cannot use the arcade
you cannot view other peoples profile
you cannot start a poll
you cannot access the al
you cannot have a sig
you cannot have avatar
you cannot afford $5
you CAN see the ads
you can be made fun of by the other members

WOW!!! This sounds just the same as another forum.... *cough*OT*cough*

The whole not being able to view others profiles is a pretty cheesy way to get people to go gold. Ads are no big deal any avg noob can get rid of the ads. And anyone there without a sub gets made fun of... these rules are sooo alike its funny :lolhit:

Juan.Camaney
06-21-2005, 01:40 AM
/me points and laughs - your still on dialup :eddie:

As for these rules:


WOW!!! This sounds just the same as another forum.... *cough*OT*cough*

The whole not being able to view others profiles is a pretty cheesy way to get people to go gold. Ads are no big deal any avg noob can get rid of the ads. And anyone there without a sub gets made fun of... these rules are sooo alike its funny :lolhit:
:fawk: You got gold, what do you care?

zzyzzgy
06-21-2005, 02:04 AM
this site isnt worth $60/year.
you want to cut out the porn and make it a pay only section, go right ahead. the rest of this forum will dry up and blow away in a couple of months. about the only saving grace about this site right now is the free porn.
i dont stop in here every day and i post even more infrequently mostly because there is very little worth posting about here.
i realize it costs money to run the site and i would gladly make a contribution if i thought it was worth it.
why keep stopping in here you ask? every few days someone posts something worth reading. happening less frequently, but it still happens.

koЯnut
06-21-2005, 02:49 AM
this site isnt worth $60/year.
you want to cut out the porn and make it a pay only section, go right ahead. the rest of this forum will dry up and blow away in a couple of months. about the only saving grace about this site right now is the free porn.
i dont stop in here every day and i post even more infrequently mostly because there is very little worth posting about here.
i realize it costs money to run the site and i would gladly make a contribution if i thought it was worth it.
why keep stopping in here you ask? every few days someone posts something worth reading. happening less frequently, but it still happens.



I never heard anybody bitching and moaning about lack of content at WR until money was involved. Now, everyone wants to speak up and say how they think this site blows even though they have hundreds of post and keep coming back. If I don't like a site and I think it lacks good content I sure as hell don't stick around. You all are a bunch of chumps.

mstad
06-21-2005, 03:04 AM
I never heard anybody bitching and moaning about lack of content at WR until money was involved. Now, everyone wants to speak up and say how they think this site blows even though they have hundreds of post and keep coming back. If I don't like a site and I think it lacks good content I sure as hell don't stick around. You all are a bunch of chumps.
:werd:
The day I don't think this site is worth a shit, you wont even see a post from me talking about it. I'd just be gone, like dust in the wind. No need to bitch and moan, it's this simple.
No likey? :gtfo: There's plenty of good members that are gonna stick around, and more that aren't even here yet. They will replace you, and no one will even remember your name.
(Not you kornut, the asshat you quoted)

Mr. Bowler
06-21-2005, 05:27 AM
:fawk: You got gold, what do you care?
I was just saying how those rules are soo much alike the ones at OT. Same exact thing, only the AL here is called something else there :eek3:

Juan.Camaney
06-21-2005, 10:33 AM
this site isnt worth $60/year.
you want to cut out the porn and make it a pay only section, go right ahead. the rest of this forum will dry up and blow away in a couple of months. about the only saving grace about this site right now is the free porn.
i dont stop in here every day and i post even more infrequently mostly because there is very little worth posting about here.
i realize it costs money to run the site and i would gladly make a contribution if i thought it was worth it.
why keep stopping in here you ask? every few days someone posts something worth reading. happening less frequently, but it still happens.
I got here when it was just the Texas people. It was worth reading then. I remained here when the extras (sanz pr0n) started showing up, it was worth reading then. I'm here now when the pr0n is here...still worth reading to me and I'd say I spend about 5 minutes a month in the pr0n section AT MOST.

We might not have the huge member numbers we have. But we would still exist, with or without you or the pr0n.

Juan.Camaney
06-21-2005, 10:35 AM
I was just saying how those rules are soo much alike the ones at OT. Same exact thing, only the AL here is called something else there :eek3:
The whole reason this place was started was cuz OT likes to ban people for everything. Not here (as much as some disagree) I warn people a lot more than I ban. I tell them "Go write whatever the fuck you want in the BOTH" and they still don't like to do that...so THEN they get banned. Not my fault...rules are their responsibility, not mine. :homos:

mrsnifflez
06-21-2005, 11:27 AM
I love this site, however I don't think it is worth $60 a year. Hell actually I don't think any site is worth paying for...just my attitude about money and websites. And although I look at the porn, I enjoy posting in the Sports section the most. I haven't been posting as much in there lately, b/c there aren't many topics that are catching my attention as much. I got off subject, but the whole meaning behind my post is to say I love the site, and the only way that I won't continue to come back is if u made the entire site a pay-only site. I'd have to agree with most and say just make the porn pay-only, and maybe the arcade. Those two take up the bost BW.

Juan.Camaney
06-21-2005, 11:42 AM
I love this site, however I don't think it is worth $60 a year. Hell actually I don't think any site is worth paying for...just my attitude about money and websites. And although I look at the porn, I enjoy posting in the Sports section the most. I haven't been posting as much in there lately, b/c there aren't many topics that are catching my attention as much. I got off subject, but the whole meaning behind my post is to say I love the site, and the only way that I won't continue to come back is if u made the entire site a pay-only site. I'd have to agree with most and say just make the porn pay-only, and maybe the arcade. Those two take up the bost BW.
ITS SFREE! DO THE EBAY TRICK!

Besides, 60 bucks a year isn't as much as you all make it seem to be. I spend more than that at a bar in a few hours. Its like buying one more big mac meal a month.

Waldo
06-21-2005, 02:31 PM
or an in and out :(

Juan.Camaney
06-21-2005, 02:38 PM
or an in and out :(
:cool:

zzyzzgy
06-23-2005, 10:42 AM
There's plenty of good members that are gonna stick around, and more that aren't even here yet. They will replace you, and no one will even remember your name.


oh my god no! i must be remembered! what ever can i do to rectify the situation?
i know! i'll pay the $5/month so i can look at pirated porn to my hearts content.


I remained here when the extras (sanz pr0n) started showing up, it was worth reading then. I'm here now when the pr0n is here...still worth reading to me

thats cool. personally i dont find that many things worth reading here. IMO, it has slipped badly over the past months.

Juan.Camaney
06-23-2005, 12:16 PM
oh my god no! i must be remembered! what ever can i do to rectify the situation?
i know! i'll pay the $5/month so i can look at pirated porn to my hearts content.




thats cool. personally i dont find that many things worth reading here. IMO, it has slipped badly over the past months.
Then seriously get the fuck out of here and quit using up the bandwith.

The day I don't think this site is worth a shit, you wont even see a post from me talking about it. I'd just be gone, like dust in the wind. No need to bitch and moan, it's this simple.

Words of wisdom for all you complainers.

dom6996
07-08-2005, 09:48 PM
Being a gold member also allows you to have a custom user text, avatar, signature, a bigger Private Message box, see who gave you Reputation Points, view other members' User Profiles, access to the Private Adult Lounge and the Arcade.

Am I missing something? Everyone is moaning about the above "restrictions", but let's look at them:

custom user text
avatar
signature
access to the AL
bigger Private Message Box
See who gave you rep points
view other member's profiles
Arcade


The only true restrictions here are the last three. The other "restrictions" HAVE ALWAYS been reserved for Gold.

When I joined, Waldo and the Mods had a goal for non-golds to earn their way into the AL. I busted my ass and followed the rules and got in. It was a good idea. I was "forced" to explore other areas of this community and I gained a new respect and appreciation this community.

After 3 months of AL privileges, they announced that the rules changed and I no longer had access to AL. I was hurt at first, but I got over it. Still I contributed and after 2 months coughed up the dough for Gold. I did it because I wanted to give back to the community. I know the cost involved in running a website. It takes time, dedication, and money.

Sure we have good members who contribute porn (pirated or not), but that doesn't pay the bills. If anything, you should pay for the fact that it is virus and popup free!!!

Look at this way, just because you live in your housing community, doesn't mean you automatically have access to the Country Club. The same applies here.

Waldo has valid reasons for most of these restrictions - I do think "looking at your own rep points" should still be free, but I agree with the arcade and member profiles. Paying $5 a month to play the arcade (which takes up a chunk of bandwidth) is still worth it. Looking at member's profiles should be a privilege.

PEOPLE, YOU'RE NOT PAYING FOR THE PORN OR THE ARCADE, BUT YOU PAYING FOR THE SERVICE. PORN IS AN ADDED BONUS OF THIS COMMUNITY AND ITS SERVICES.

m88dc
07-11-2005, 01:23 PM
wow, this is very heated. Waldo needs to provide incentive so people become GOLD. He doesn't know you, but he's giving you so much for free. People I know won't give me things! Bandwidth costs money. There are ways to decrease the BW, but they would be detrimental to the use of the forums. I came here for the pr0n, then realized I don't particularly care about it. I don't need an avatar, a signature, none of that. I would be nice to have access to the AL or the Arcade, but I can live without. If you aren't paying for anything, you have NO right to complain. I only complain when I run into something unexpected and end up having to deal with it. (This is a reference to something I've complained about earlier)

If anyone with a high-speed connection would like to do some good for the BW, find out your upload speed. Mine is 32 kbps. It's not very high, but it could reasonably host pics. If someone has a campus connection, they could probably host videos. Set up an FTP server and link to it. People could upload to it and save costs on the site.

stinkybob
08-15-2005, 06:35 PM
I signed up for the X-drive promotion but havnt gotten credit nor my gold membership? What do I do now?

bobthecomputer
08-27-2005, 04:17 PM
This best reason I see - you can be made fun of by the other members

Roflmao!

Samdrew
09-18-2005, 06:11 AM
wow

shadow8
10-17-2005, 01:48 AM
I think you should add more restrictions... ;)
Gold members only in the porn section.

btw: I am going to become gold sometimes soon...

ratbastard
10-20-2005, 06:14 PM
oh my god no! i must be remembered! what ever can i do to rectify the situation?
i know! i'll pay the $5/month so i can look at pirated porn to my hearts content.




:rant2:I like to think of it as a way to share an appreciation for beauty and the female gender as a whole! If you notice most of my posts so far haven't been really hardcore, like girls using dildos, cum drippin' off the chin, chicks stickin' shit up their butts...etc! I've got a footlocker full of videos and DVD's with that stuff on it. I like to see an incredibly good lookin' gal doin' just that, looking incredible. I do have sets of the harder stuff and I will post them as I have time but for the most part I enjoy the look of some cute little gal just bein' cute!

Suppose I'm weird but, oh well! Waddaya gonna do? :rant2:

Well, I gotta go tear one off and get ready for work!! :wackit:

ratbastard
10-20-2005, 06:22 PM
I do have one small problem...I don't have a bank account for my PAYPAL! So I will soon have reached my spending limit for not being verified...which means I can no longer pay to be gold. I don't mind helping a decent WEB site stay afloat. Everyone here seems pretty casual for the most part, which is odd in cyberspace these days! There's some flaming and name calling, but not like I've seen elsewhere!

Anyway...I needed to cry about that while I'm here!

clamsrus
11-03-2005, 07:05 PM
I arrived by mistake....discovered the porn.....got bored by the porn.....discovered the people warts and all......got to like some of them even. With the current exchange rate from NZ$ to US$ buying access to rep and profile would cost more than it's worth....so I guess I'll get to meet new folks more by good luck than design. I've done the ebay trick once before...so maybe they'll wear it twice...who knows! Anyway even without the porn......which I can'r even remember how long it is since I looked on it.....WR is still the best around with heaps for all.

My only comment Waldo would be that the strength of the community, paying or not, relies on the people to people contacts/relationships.....sure the porn is the bait and many get to exercise their *tackle*, but the current situation is a bit like a non drinker walking into a bar and not being allowed to meet the patrons without buying a round......although I fully understand you are sick of "open house on the management" , you still have to get them in the door......the ambience keeps the hardened alcoholics sculling......but agreed you should pay for the pool table, pokies and darts.