BREAKING NEWS! ;DISTRICT ATTORNEY Mark Hurlbert LIED ,LA TIMES REPORTS

[DB]

BREAKING NEWS! DISTRICT ATTORNEY Mark Hurlbert LIED
LA TIMES REPORTS STAFF WRITER STEVE HENSON 12/20/2003

SOME ONE FROM HIS OFFICE ORDERED DOZENS OF THE HANGMAN TEE SHIRTS ADMITTED MARK HULBERT
DISTRICT ATTORNEY MARK HULBERT ACCEPTED ONE OF THE HANGMAN TEE SHIRTS
DISTRICT ATTORNEY MARK HULBERT SAYS I LIED IN OCTOBER WHEN HE DENIED SOME ONE FROM HIS OFFICE ORDERED DOZENS OF THE HANGMAN TEE SHIRTS

[DB]

Its Important! Because It Shows The Bias Of These Agencies

Disparaging Comments And A Hangman Shows Racial Discrimination

Kobe Attorney Pamela Mackey Is Well On Her Way To Proving Everything She Outlined In Her Briefs

[DB]

Da Mark Hulbert's Vigalante Prosecution

New Supreme Court Buzzwords,Vigalante Prosecution
When The Prosecution Turns To The Testimony Entirely Of A Single Witness.

As Stated In The Motions To Admit

[KenInNJ]

Da Mark Hulbert's Vigalante Prosecution

New Supreme Court Buzzwords,Vigalante Prosecution
When The Prosecution Turns To The Testimony Entirely Of A Single Witness. As Stated In The Motions To Admit
Not there as yet, but well on the way.....

[hefe28]

let me get this straight,
prosecutors that are pro-victim and anti-biased against a rapist is a bad thing, the next thing your going to tell me is that prosecutors should be nice to child molestors
If he beleives that Kobe is a rapist and he does, he should go after him a who gives a shit about a hangman T-Shirt, if they hung more rapist the number of rapes would go down and the world would be a better place

[KenInNJ]

Its Important! Because It Shows The Bias Of These Agencies. Disparaging Comments And A Hangman Shows Racial Discrimination. Kobe Attorney Pamela Mackey Is Well On Her Way To Proving Everything She Outlined In Her Briefs Hefe, look at what DB wrote about Agency Bias with disparaging remarks to hang Kobe. Does it remind the general public about private animosity to publicly lynch Kobe? It doesn't take much for people to think that Kobe can't get a "fair trial" guaranteed under the Constitution . Last I thought Kobe was emanicipated and there are many who does give a shit about a public agency displaying hangman T-Shirts before the trial even started . Perhaps neither DB nor myself making this important point clearly.

[hefe28]

well that public agency thinks he guilty, and its not like he put the shirt and went to court or dinner, so what if he has a shirt, big deal, you want to let rape charges drop because a T-Shirt, it ain't happening, and if thats Kobe's best defence then he will playing in the Colorado Penal League next year, its a rape case and your talking about a damn T-Shirt

[KenInNJ]

well that public agency thinks he guilty, ... you want to let rape charges drop because a T-Shirt, it ain't happening, and if thats Kobe's best defence then he will playing in the Colorado Penal League next year, its a rape case and your talking about a damn T-Shirt Let me see if I can make it clearer about the public agency's misuse of T-shirt which impairs Kobe's right to a "fair trial." You believe the T-shirt is irrelevant, and it would be the same perspective of the prosecution, the sheriff and investigator who are bringing forth the case against Kobe. The relevance is whether the black color "lynching" T-shirt paid with personal funds of the prosecutors, sheriffs and investigators during normal business hours and for which these organized actions conducted at and coordinated between the offices of the public agencies will have caused the "impartial investigation and prosecution" of Kobe before or during the trial. Such is what I supposed what DB was saying in his earlier posts on Supreme Court's reversible errors containing "vigelante prosecution." No one says the public agency can't think Kobe is guilty, but they have to conduct themselves at all times in an impartial and professional manner (in seeking the truth to what was really said between the two in that hotel room) with the public trial by giving Kobe his "due process" and NOT a public pretrial lynching.

[DB]

REMEMBER THIS SAME TOWN IN EAGLE COLORADA PAID OUT MILLIONS IN RACIAL PROFILING LAWSUIT MONEY. WHEN THEY LOST A DISCRIMATION CASE involving racial profiling.

NOW ITS NOT ALLEGED WE KNOW THEY WERE RACIALING PROFILING!

If you were african american or black or latin and traveled thru eagle colorado you would get pulled over ticketed maybe even searched or jailed ect just for being BLACK OR LATIN.

remember PEOPLE WHO DISCRIMANITE NOW THESE DAYS some even say that minorities cause crime or crime to go up but
RARELY SAY IN PUBLIC PULL HIM OVER CAUSE HE'S BLACK or LATIN
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WHAT THEY SAY NOW IS THEY WILL LOWER PROPERTY VALUES, THEY FIT THE DESCRIPTION OF A SUSPECT,THEY WERE SPEEDING , THEY WERE DOING SOMETHING SUSPIOUS OR LOOKED SUSPIOUS,

THIS COULD BE THE REASON FOR THE VIGILANTE PROSECUTION OF KOBE BRYANT
Da Mark Hulbert's Vigalante Prosecution
New Supreme Court Buzzwords,Vigalante Prosecution
When The Prosecution Turns To The Testimony Entirely Of A Single Witness.
As Stated In The Motions To Admit

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THEY MAKE EXCUSES TO HIDE THE TRUE AND REAL REASONS FOR THERE ACTIONS
THIS IS CALLED A PRETEXT FOR RACIAL DISCRIMINATION.

[KenInNJ]

YOur point is well made about Eagle having a history of racial profiling. But what does that have to do with Kobe and Kate in this trial? I doubt that that piece of race issue will ever be brought up before the jury because Judge Ruckriedge will NOT admit it as well as DA Hurlbert protesting it to be excluded. Bottom line, it won't get in.

But you make a good point for the court of public opinion. But you think the press will play that in the news coverages? Hardly heard it on any TV talk shows.

[DB]

TO HIDE THE REAL REASON FOR YOUR ACTIONS OR BEHAVIOR IS CALLED A PRETEXT

ITS AN EXCUSE TO HIDE THE REAL REASON

PRETEXT:
a purpose or motive alleged or an appearance assumed in order to cloak the real intention or state of affairs

[hefe28]

I still remember when racial profiling used to be called good police work, you know why cops use racial profiling, because it works

[KenInNJ]

So what you're saying is that DA Hurlbert and Sheriff Hoy along with the Eagle investigators and detectives are all hiding under a pretext of "hanging" Kobe because he committed an alleged crime or because he meets the profile of a rape felon? Without having the necessary evidence to convict him. Hmmmmmmm

[KenInNJ]

I still remember when racial profiling used to be called good police work, you know why cops use racial profiling, because it works Sure, it's like using a nuke bomb to kill a fly. Of course, the LEO will catch at least one crook and at the same time harmed many other innocent citizens as part of the good police work.

Betcha if you stopped enough profiled groups, you're bound to get a match for whatever. It's the number of times your misses for which racial profiling fails.

[DB]

I'm saying that DA MARK hULBERT & THE SHERIFF & ITS INVESTIGATORS FIT THE PROFILE OF RACIST TRYING TO PROTECT THE BLONDE HEAD WHITE WOMAN CRYING RAPE THAT REALLY WAS NOT RAPED JUST LIKE IN "TO KILL A MOCKING BIRD" AND "ROSEWOOD" EST.
REMEMBER IN THE BEGINGING THE NEWS WAS MAKING IT OUT LIKE THEY REALLY HAD SOMETHING ON KOBE AND WHILE ALL ALONE AFTER THE PRELIMINARY HEARING WE GOT A NICE PICTURE OF WHAT MORE LIKELY HAPPEN AND THE JUDGES & LEGAL ANYLIST AGEED A FLIMSY & CONTRADICTORY CASE THAT PURSUEING IS AN ERROR IN JUDGEMENT.

CENSORSHIP OF THE ACCUSERS MANY ISSUE,CREDIBILITY ISSUE AND PROBLEMS, SCHEZOPRENIA,DRUG USE , OTHER FALSE RAPE ACCUSATIONS,NBA GROUPIE TENDINCIES,SUICIDE ATTEMPTS FOR ATTENTION,, BRAGGING, BRAGGING WITH CONTRADICTIONS OF STORY, BRAGGING ABOUT MONEY,EXAGERATION OF INJURIES, 12 HOUR LAPSE BEFORE REPORTING ALLEGED RAPE.

WOMEN GROUPS SAY THAT WOMEN & CHILDREN DON'T MAKE FALSE RAPE CLAIMS AND THEN THEY SAY THE PERCENTAGE IS LOW BUT OTHER SURVEYS FROM MORE INDEPENDANT SOURCES SAY ITS CLOSER TO 50% FALSE RAPE CLAIMS.

RAPE SHIELD LAWS THAT THE SUPREME COURT FINDS CAUSES ERRORS IN CONVICTIONS SO THE CONVICTIONS OR OVERTURNED CALLING IT REVERSEIBLE ERROR

[DB]

I still remember when racial profiling used to be called good police work, you know why cops use racial profiling, because it works


ok if racial profiling works lets go and fish.
all the white males wearing suites ceo , executives est of all these corporations stealing peoples retirement money such savings & loan recent mutual fund scandals,enron and many many more

lets start violating there rights of unlawful search & seizure.
these folks or bigger crooks stealing from the elderly and retired.
there stealing hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars. this is grand theft. Just becasue they have money for lawyers does not mean they should be treated different. oh and rush limbaugh types lets check all them for drugs,he's a hippocrite, any one speaking out agaisnt drug use lets search and investigate them.
why stop there every one looks suspious to some one.
we could use a shot gun to kill a roach.

[KenInNJ]

Hefe thinks profiling works to catch THE OTHER people.

1. If profiling for alcoholic drivers, just set up patrol cars in and out of certain ethnic neighborhoods. That will put many in jail, revoke their license, break up families.
2. If profiling for cocaine users, just set up patrol cars in and out of certain high income neighborhoods. That will put many in jail, close many businesses and break up families.
3. If profiling for tax cheats, just set up more LEOs and tax cops. That will close up many businesses and put many families in jail.
4. If profiling for white collar fraud, just set up more investigators against all the big businesses and many will go to jail and break up prominent families in your communities.

But it is easier to go after dis-enfranchised groups who can't afford to put up a good defense - called winning by default.

[hefe28]

profiling works for all people,

if a white person is driving slowly around in area of town thats is mostly black and has a history of drug sales, you pull them over

do you screen more carefully at the airport, an arab man or a grandmother ?

I am not saying all racial profiling is right, but in some cases it does work and is effective

[hefe28]

dis-enfranchised ?

that seems to be the buzz word of the day that race baiters use. i.e. Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton

I know of no one who has been dis-enfranchised, and neither do you because its doesn't happen

[DB]

I use to get pulled over by the police 2-3 times a day when I was younger, and the police found nothing. I was in santa monica & I had heard that some black males did some shoting and the the police would just pulled over every one who was black then it happen to me. The officer wrote me a ticket for something I did not do, but when the officer found out why I was out there he seemed to fill bad about it any way the ticket was thrown out. same thing happen to Johnny cochran ,the police had him lay down face down on the ground.

I had been disenfranchised when I was younger & still sometimes to this day.
generally now when the police found out that I work for a major law firm they leave me alone but sometimes they try to use the coersive technique to question me to get me to talk to them.such as traid not getting a ticket for telling them what I am doing or what they call me (like I am in a gang) est they stereo type me. I usaully have a few techniques to get them in trouble like complain to there watch commander. when I was younger & the police did something wrong they would not take the complaint but now I know if they do not take the complint I escalate it using mall my legal resources.I have gotten some 5 figures XXX,XXX.xx from friom this technique i used.

[hefe28]

Me and 3 friends got pulled over by 4 cop cars and were made to seat there for an hour for a blown headlight, was I dis-enfranchised ? no. cops always busted up our parties, were we dis-enfranchised, no. and I don't think you were either. I got pulled out of class because a drug dog hit on my car, no drugs were found, was I dis-enfranchised ? no.

Shit happens to everybody so get over it

[DB]

I was just out to go purchase a home ,I own apartmens now its a incorporated community the lady ask me your moving up here I said yes , she ask what number. it was a cacausin lady. they they try to talk me out of purchase up there on the hill.

[KenInNJ]

profiling works for all people, if a white person is driving slowly around in area of town thats is mostly black and has a history of drug sales, you pull them over do you screen more carefully at the airport, an arab man or a grandmother ? I am not saying all racial profiling is right, but in some cases it does work and is effective
Profiling doesn't work well for anybody and NOT effective. It's more pain than it's worth. Donkin donut cops do that because they're untrained and with very tiny amount of modern education, resorting to outdated and unlawful techniques. Profiling is similar to a Nazi approach, stop point everything and make them prove they're innocent. Unfortunately, the cops forgot about the Constitution and civil liberties for which this great country is founded. Cops when using profiling are Gestopos.

I've done lots of volunteered teaching years back for a national non-profit organization (Junior Achievements) which required me to travel to minority neigborhoods to help young kids. Yeah, I was stopped more than once even in the day time to which the cop pulled his gun and pointed directly at my face less than 12 inches away with his ichy finger on the trigger. He was alone and by himself and it was just his words vs. mine. He pulled me over, searched, proved ID & insurance, looked and didn't give me a ticket. Perhaps it was just his gag for the day. To this day, lost a lot of sleep and I still didn't know why he pulled me except possibly profiling? Perhaps, I could have done what DB did and filed a public complaint against these smart cops - nah, its more aggravation than its worth. Profiling taught me the ugly police tactics and caused me to no longer help younger minority kids in the poor urban neighborhoods.

[billpl]

Donkin donut cops do that because they're untrained and with very tiny amount of modern education, resorting to outdated and unlawful techniques. Profiling is similar to a Nazi approach, stop point everything and make them prove they're innocent. Unfortunately, the cops forgot about the Constitution and civil liberties for which this great country is founded. Cops when using profiling are Gestopos.

...errr Ken, are we profiling cops?

In general I don't like them either and many deserve the bad rap but they're a long way from being Nazi's

[KenInNJ]

...errr Ken, are we profiling cops?
In general I don't like them either and many deserve the bad rap but they're a long way from being Nazi's
Not really, but only if the cops adopt dumbstuffs that make them behave like stereotypes. i.e. lazy, taking coffee breaks, putting up checkpoints and wearing Nazi boots. LOL