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93crawler
11-25-2008, 10:06 PM
This an article from Politico, by Robert E. Lang about how the GOP is in really, really bad shape. I've been saying this since before the election, having a party that essentially appeals to white people is a really bad strategy. White people as a majority won't exist for much longer. It's been projected that minorities together will represent the majority in the US within the next few decades. In fact, the US is the only country that still consistently is growing and adding new citizens....largely from legal and illegal immigration South of the border.

The article challenges the sentiment that this is still somehow a "center-right" country, when the election clearly says otherwise. I'm sure that most of you conservatives will balk at the article, and the sentiment that Republican's need to restructure their party drastically. If you really stop to think about it, the article is very, very true. I for one want the GOP to continue business as usual, because I see them continuing to lose most elections for the foreseeable future. Sure, they will always have the really, really red-neck South to count on, but remember what the electoral college map looked like after Obama won? I really hope Palin runs in four years, I really, really hope she does. In any case, here's the article.

In the wake of the Republican defeat, there has been much recrimination and finger-pointing over tactics and strategy. Was the Sarah Palin choice fatal? Should John McCain have suspended his campaign during the financial crisis?

But the larger issue is whether 2008 was a “realigning election” that went deeper than the candidates or the current issues. The jury is still out as to whether Democrats can turn one sweeping victory into a generation-long dominance of the White House. A key element in a possible structural shift favoring Democrats is the changing demographics of the electorate. The U.S. is growing bigger, increasingly diverse and more cosmopolitan — and the GOP seems on the wrong side of all these trends.

The United States is the only developed country that is projected to add lots of new residents by mid-century. In 2006, the nation’s population reached 300 million. The Census Bureau estimates that the U.S. will get to 400 million by 2039. To put this growth in perspective, consider that even China (yes, China) will not add 100 million people by that date. The U.S. will gain more new residents in the next three decades than the current population of Germany — the largest European Union nation.

With each decade, more than 22 million potential new voters will enter the electorate. Parties that fix on a strategy may find that it is unworkable in just a few cycles. The Republican Party’s idea of stoking its base to gain office assumes a somewhat static voting public, which, given the dynamic nature of American demographics, is a faulty notion.

So who are most of these new people? The quick answer is both recent immigrants and their American-born offspring. By 2043, the U.S. may be a majority minority nation. Another scenario is that a high rate of intermarriage among whites and minorities may open to question the whole notion of who is “majority.” The bottom line for Republicans is that no matter how this population is defined, an increasing number of current minorities are voting for Democrats.

Republicans can, of course, switch their strategy and make more direct appeals to minority voters. As recently as 2004, President George W. Bush almost won the Latino vote. But at the moment, the Republicans seem branded as the party of white people. Furthermore, much of the Republican base — especially those listening to talk radio — believe the U.S. is being flooded with immigrants (legal and illegal). It may be hard to pivot and embrace diversity without alienating the GOP base. By contrast, many whites in the Democratic Party are comfortable with diversity and now form a transracial coalition with minority voters.

As the U.S. expands and diversifies, it is becoming more urban. The Census finds that 83 percent of Americans live in metropolitan areas and that well over half live in regions with more than 1 million residents. By other calculations, two-thirds of people added by 2040 will settle in just 20 megapolitan areas — massive urban complexes that contain more than 5 million residents.

Were just the big metro areas to vote, the presidential race would be a rout every time. The Democrats dominate major urban regions. An analysis by the Metropolitan Institute at Virginia Tech found that Barack Obama won the votes in the nation’s top 50 metro areas — often by double-digit margins.

Worse for Republicans, in 2006 and 2008, Democrats significantly expanded the areas of the metros they won. Their electoral dominance has spilled out of cities and close-in suburbs and now reaches into the kinds of sprawling subdivisions that were once reliably Republican. The suburbs in key swing states such as Colorado, North Carolina and Virginia played a particularly decisive role in delivering the presidency to Democrats.

Republicans must adjust to the demographic shifts sweeping America or risk being politically marginalized. Most significantly, the party needs to recognize that there are simply not enough rural white voters to balance the growing number of minority voters and cosmopolitan whites living in big metro areas. If Republicans think 2008 went badly, try running the same kind of small-town-flavored campaign in 2020. At that point, the vastly expanded and racially diverse metro areas in Texas and Georgia could tip those once reliably red states to the Democrats.

Krasch
11-26-2008, 06:13 AM
You keep making this claim. But it's far too precipitous to make that call based solely on post 2006 election results.

By 2006, people were already turning against Bush due to the Iraq war, and that has only intensified since then. It's far more likely that any gains the Dems made in the last few years reflect more a repudiation of Bush than a true shift in the demographic.

One, you might recall the GOP did very well in 2004 based on Bush's response to 9/11, and the Afghan war which some might have called a shift in the demographic toward the right.

Two, you might also recall a little further back when everyone seemed agog over the Democrats back in 1992, only to hand both the House and the Senate to the Republicans with significant gains for the GOP in the mid-term elections of 1994.

It's far too early to call a change in the fundamental demographic of the U.S. unless you also believe that the U.S. suddenly changed out half their population in a scant 2-4 years. Now if the trend we saw in the 2008 election holds for the next 8 years or more, you might be on to something.

joerockhead
11-26-2008, 05:43 PM
Actually, the Democratic party is growing and will out number the GOP.

As stated, the numbers of Illegals coming from the south that will all be allowed to stay (due to the Dems wanting them for votes) will help tremendously.

And of course, it really makes no difference. The Next four years will change the direction of America. It will become a 2nd world nation that is either Marxist or Socialist. And yet, the Entire US Government will all be rich and out of reach of laws and the average American.

The Already give themselves raises, a different retirement program that we pay for and they pay nothing, way to collect money from other avenues (Major Corps) to help get re elected or just spend as they wish, break laws and as long as you are ass kissing the current leaders, nothing happens, and they do not have to pay any taxes.

The DEMS will raise taxes in 2011, saying the economy is repaired (a lie) and that we need to pay. Also, the "Share the Wealth" will kick in, and if anyone works really hard for their earned money, they will help ignorant lazy bums get free medical, dental and housing.

The only thing the GOP can do is either change and become like the DEMS, or try and educate people what Freedom really means. But, with any member in Congress trying to talk about responsibility and rights and fairness, that will never happen, since the GPO member's are just as corrupt.

licupssy
11-27-2008, 05:37 AM
The only great demographic change indicated is with Hispanics from 15% to 30% of the population by 2050. This great jump must be assuming many of the present illegal immigrates to be counted or a great increase of illegal crossing the boarder by then. I doubt if the increase is counting on some abnormal quantities of new births in the Hispanic communities.

The fact is that only 130 million of the 230 million people of voting age voted.This shows that there are some 100 million people who are not politically active at all. They could be registered to either or any party.

The elections of 2006 and 2008 were predominantly anti-Bush elections. This is added to the black for black vote which greatly increased the inner city vote. The anti-age vote against McCain and the anti-working class vote(only slick talking lawyers know how to run things) against Palin. Then you have the voters that bought into the $1000 tax cut for the middle class group.

What the democrats have to realize there present majority depends on how Obama handles things. You have a critical economy, costly bailouts, business downsizing, increasing unemployment and foreign countries that consider him easy to use to their advantage. Even with the democratic majorities in congress, it doesn't mean he'll have a give me on the legislation he wants passed.

There will be no Bush to bash in 2010 and 2012 so the democrats will have to make it on their own merits unless they plan to run a hispanic for president in 2012.

fmb
12-01-2008, 05:28 PM
Meh... After every election, the losing party has to look at itself and figure out what went wrong. On the other hand, the winners have to look at how they won the present election and attempt to maintain the momentum for the next election. I don't think it takes a rocket scientist to figure out the GOP has some issues outside the mainstream GOP supporters.

During this recent election, I saw the GOP really reach out and start courting minority voters; however, I then saw the GOP hierarchy apologize to the GOP core for doing so. It doesn't take a dumbass to see this creates huge problems for continuation of the party, just a dumbass to keep doing it.