How to catch a..liar?

[@man2girlz]

Is there a way to pick up on a faked orgasm by a girl? The one I'm sleeping with now says she's cum during sex, but from my (probably very skewed from porn) idea of how this 'shows' on the girl's face/body language/etc. I'm still unsure...
This seems kind of a dumb question now that I'm reading it over, but still it's a self-confidence in bed/am i big enough/good enough related question. Some pointers on how to Sherlock this shit would be great,thanks! :juan:

[skept]

You know.. probably doesn't answer your question but.... It doesn't matter if you or her orgasm or not... its all about if you guys are satisfied with your sex life...

[Queso]

nearly all women in porn fake it, it's an acting job, so I wouldn't go by anything I saw on that. That and everyone's different when it comes to that, different facial expressions and what not so she really could be having an orgasm even with a straight face. I'd think it'd be pretty easy to fake though if she knew what she was doing. Does her vagina clench when she does it? Involuntary spasms down there are a tip off of an orgasm.

oh, and being 'big enough' doesn't really matter a whole lot. You can have a huge wang but if you don't have the right motion it won't get it done

[fmb]

I have to agree with skept and Queso on this one! If you're both satisfied, what does it really matter? Yes, it's very easy for us guys to have an orgasm; women have a more difficult time achieving an orgasm.

Remember, men are primed and ready within seconds. A woman needs a little more time to reach the same point as a man. Lots of foreplay, kissing, and fun will go a long way toward helping her reach the same point as you. If you want her to get there, it'll take some work from you.

Get to know her likes and dislikes. Learn by listening to her and watching her reaction to things. She like it? Remember it for use another time. Dislike it? For now, leave that technique or act alone. In the end, don't expect her to have an orgasm every time you're together.

[Queso]

and if all else fails, go down on her.

some girls don't or can't get off from sex (i.e. penis thrusting) at all. A little oral, and practice, and i'm sure she won't be faking it

[Juan.Camaney]

Uuum, I'm not allowed to say why I know this, but not all girls in porn fake it.

However, thinking that porn is an addequate representation of what real sex is, is like watching Rambo and thinking some senior citizen can take on a bunch of dudes and live.

If she says she came, she came. You don't need to worry any more about that. Just get yours while pleasing her and be done with it. If she starts complaining, then you start to worry about it. Quit rocking the fucking boat.

[cm8]

I fake it all the time with my husband, I have only 1 orgasm with him and it was when he used his mouth! He pleasures himself more than he takes care of me so when we even attempt to make love, I don't get wet sometimes, I used to want it all the time but he denies me that pleasure so I have learned to get it else where

[Juan.Camaney]

I fake it all the time with my husband, I have only 1 orgasm with him and it was when he used his mouth! He pleasures himself more than he takes care of me so when we even attempt to make love, I don't get wet sometimes, I used to want it all the time but he denies me that pleasure so I have learned to get it else where
:juan: far be it from me to tell a woman to stay faithful, but did you try to talk to him first?

Take heed dudes...take care of your woman AND yourself, for women DO seek elsewhere.

[CD]

I fake it all the time with my husband, I have only 1 orgasm with him and it was when he used his mouth! He pleasures himself more than he takes care of me so when we even attempt to make love, I don't get wet sometimes, I used to want it all the time but he denies me that pleasure so I have learned to get it else where
You can always talk to him about that. If he doesn't listen or attempt to make a change, then you can take the next step... but until that time, I don't suggest going out and getting new ass.

[fmb]

This thread has brought up some good points. As juan and CD have posted, if you don't pay attention to the woman in your life, she may look elsewhere for the attention and approval she needs. The biggest point: listen to her and try to incorporate her needs.

This can be pretty simple and make both people happy. Mostly, it doesn't take much, just a little effort.

[gen. cutter]

rule number one: the majority, if not ALL women need clitoral stimulation to orgasm.

the pornos and erotic stories are all lying about women that get off from jack hammer fucks. penetration does not do it. if shes cumming from fucking, she's probably faking it. there's an exception to every rule, but this one is so universal it ranks up there with girls who can orgasm from breast play, ie: very rare.

women who fake orgasms mystify me. why? if you lover thinks you came he wont try to give you a real orgasm AND he wont learn how to really please you. that means YOU dont get pleasured. how fun is that?

my advice (if you care about honesty and being a good lover) is: call her bluff. tell her you know from experience (lie, i guess) that she's probably not orgasming with just penetration. and if she's ready to be an adult about sex, you two can move to the next level of sex: mutual satisfaction, and then spiritual. don't cheat yourself.

[jeffc574]

Everyone has given you sound advice so far, let me add a bit.

First, ask her. Tell her you want her to enjoy sex as much as you do.
Second, do not compare your life with porn. Are you dating a porn star? Didn't think so.
Third, Try going down on her until she comes. Is it the same as with your dick? I have found that the tounge (or at least my tounge) does a better job of getting her off.

Lastly, she is not lying to you. She is making you happy. 'I am working late...' when she is at a club with some other guy is lying to you.

[maggiesdragons]

I don't know if this is true from most women, but for me when I am orgasming, my muscles down there contract and pretty hard if its a really good orgasm. if she is like me, then you should be able to feel that with your penis if you are in her.

[Queso]

I don't know if this is true from most women, but for me when I am orgasming, my muscles down there contract and pretty hard if its a really good orgasm. if she is like me, then you should be able to feel that with your penis if you are in her.
that can be faked pretty easily as well though. some girls might not think of that though

[maggiesdragons]

that can be faked pretty easily as well though. some girls might not think of that though

very true, but it is something else for him to kinda see if she is really enjoying her self as much as she says...


another thing I want to add, is even if a girl really doesn't get off, it still feels good

[brunette5]

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another thing I want to add, is even if a girl really doesn't get off, it still feels good


But disappointing.

[maggiesdragons]

But disappointing.


I guess that depends on the female.

[brunette5]

I guess that depends on the female.

Very true. And the circumstances. Luckily that doesnt't happen for me much.

[Queso]

another thing I want to add, is even if a girl really doesn't get off, it still feels good

:werd: and


I guess that depends on the female.

:werd:

[@man2girlz]

i just thought of a second detail that may be something i'm not getting. when she is cumming (im assuming!) she clenches her legs and pushes me away from her to the point that to stay inside her i have to literally overpower her...which is what is making it weird for me to understand, since i figure from a guy's perspective, if i'm about to cum why would i try to remove the 'source' of the stimulation?

any girls have some knowledge that could shed light on this, pretty plz? :D

[Queso]

i just thought of a second detail that may be something i'm not getting. when she is cumming (im assuming!) she clenches her legs and pushes me away from her to the point that to stay inside her i have to literally overpower her...which is what is making it weird for me to understand, since i figure from a guy's perspective, if i'm about to cum why would i try to remove the 'source' of the stimulation?

any girls have some knowledge that could shed light on this, pretty plz? :D
a lot of the time it's too much of a good thing, if that makes sense. for some girls it gets REALLY sensitive down there after/when they come. I'm sure your member gets a little sensitive too. like for me, i can only take it for about 5 seconds before i have to push my guy back because it just gets to be too much.

[@man2girlz]

so it's not a 'i'm pushing you away but i dont want you out' thing, but rather 'i'm pushing you away for a reason' thing? i have always felt divided in that point, cause one part of me wants to keep going/thinks she does too, and another is like, back up and wait for her to show she wants to continue...

[fmb]

so it's not a 'i'm pushing you away but i dont want you out' thing, but rather 'i'm pushing you away for a reason' thing? i have always felt divided in that point, cause one part of me wants to keep going/thinks she does too, and another is like, back up and wait for her to show she wants to continue...

Why not give this a try? When she does have her orgasm:
^slow down
^slightly lift yourself away from her (removes your pubic bone from near her clit; provides only penile stimulation to her vagina)

Later, ask her about the intensity. Too much? Touch here, not there? I'll think you'll really benefit from her answers.

Good luck!

[Anibal]

so it's not a 'i'm pushing you away but i dont want you out' thing, but rather 'i'm pushing you away for a reason' thing? i have always felt divided in that point, cause one part of me wants to keep going/thinks she does too, and another is like, back up and wait for her to show she wants to continue...

If she pushes you away im would bet my money on the real thing, she have to be really into the faking thing for that.

And she pushes you away because thats how women react when they get to that point, i dont know if overpowering her to stay inside is the right thing to do but that just depends on the girl.

[kulotsalot]

Heh. Clitoral orgasm, yeah I'd get to the point where it's too sensitive and GETOFFMEEE! If it isn't clitoral though, I'd say I'd be fighting to keep you in me, riding that wave 'til the end and milking that O for all it's worth. :)

Different strokes!!!

[cm8]

:juan: far be it from me to tell a woman to stay faithful, but did you try to talk to him first?

Take heed dudes...take care of your woman AND yourself, for women DO seek elsewhere.


I have many times, he's always"tired", I used to give him the "Royal Treatment" using my mouth and making sure his needs were met, be he denies me. I'm a very clean person, and I ALWAYS make sure I'm good to go when ever he wants it. Truth is he's more into watching porn then being with me. I can never understand why he would jack off when I'm next to him asleep and all I wanted was about 5 minutes. When I said I get it else where, I met I dabble in solo sex about 6 times a day! No kidding, I'm not getting my needs met, my life if hell and although I have considered stepping out on him, I haven't. He did it to me and I was very hurt. He blamed me for snooping when I found out, yet I remain faithful. I am not sure for how much longer though, I been getting an urge to get it from someone that I know has no problems taking care of "home". He wants it when he wants it and when i want is which is like 24/7 i'm too much, I thought marriage was supposed to give you unlimited miles for sex, heck, I had more sex when I was single with him, then now that we are married. I think I made a mistake, and I am not sure how to fix it.

[@man2girlz]

are you super nice when you're saying you want it? or vice versa, are you aggressive about it? maybe you can try switching your approach completely?

my $.02