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adrenaline
07-20-2007, 05:02 PM
Is the guy ever going to see the football field again?



I say no.. and i cant say im too sad about it either.

BackdoorJesus
07-20-2007, 05:25 PM
yeah thats some pretty fucked up shit he's done, if he never takes the field again I would not be surprised & it would serve him right. just cruel & unusual - I think there's a special spot saved in hell for him.

Draggon
07-20-2007, 06:00 PM
All depends on bail.
If you listen to people that follow the NHL and issues of this nature, it doesn't sound like the league is going to do anything until the trial at least, so as long as the Falcons keep him, he'll play until the league says he can't, or the gov't puts him in jail.

starchaser
07-21-2007, 02:13 AM
I hope he goes to jail. Dumb ass mother fuck.

Jabooty_3
07-21-2007, 09:02 PM
I bet he'll play

koЯnut
07-21-2007, 09:23 PM
I actually made me angry hearing all the things that went down on his property.

I hope he never plays again or gets one damn red cent in endorsements.

mstad
07-22-2007, 12:09 AM
I actually made me angry hearing all the things that went down on his property.

I hope he never plays again or gets one damn red cent in endorsements.
:werd:


He was a great player, but I hope this fucks his career right away.

thecowboy
07-22-2007, 03:08 PM
Conviction carries up to six years in prison, fines of $350,000 and restitution.




I would guess he ends up getting a slap on the wrist.

Draggon
07-24-2007, 03:17 PM
He was a great player, but I hope this fucks his career right away.
He wasn't even a great player, but rather a great athlete. He wasn't even a good QB if it weren't for his running abilities. Didn't think very well, and was never a great leader.
I was never a big fan, and now everything about him disgusts me. Good thing the league as said don't show up to camp...hopefully he doesn't play, though I still think he will.
I would guess he ends up getting a slap on the wrist.
I doubt he'll get a slap. This is a Federal case. They want him behind bars. Slaps come from county trials.

koЯnut
07-24-2007, 04:37 PM
He wasn't even a great player, but rather a great athlete. He wasn't even a good QB if it weren't for his running abilities. Didn't think very well, and was never a great leader.


:werd:

Although, he does have a rocket for an arm. He just can't throw it accurately.

Draggon
07-24-2007, 06:48 PM
:werd:

Although, he does have a rocket for an arm. He just can't throw it accurately.
A lot of people have rocket arms...but just like pitchers, if you don't know when to put it where it's as useful as a male nipple.

koЯnut
07-24-2007, 07:07 PM
A lot of people have rocket arms...but just like pitchers, if you don't know when to put it where it's as useful as a male nipple.


Vick has one of the best in the NFL though. I think if he got the right QB's coach to help him, he'd be even more dangerous with a air attack.

Well, that is if he ever plays again. :eekrofl:

Draggon
07-24-2007, 08:08 PM
I think if he put his mind to learning the game and had the right teacher to help you are correct.
I just don't see him making smart decisions through the air, and he always opts for the scramble when in trouble (I understand that he's going to his strength when pressed)

Jackie-0
07-24-2007, 11:57 PM
Eh, he's just a two sports player, like Bo and Primetime. Except his two sports are football and dogfighting.

thecowboy
07-25-2007, 06:43 PM
I read the indictment yesterday. Holy crap. I retract my slap on the wrist claim, the dude is fried.

Axenos1
07-26-2007, 04:36 PM
As much as I want to, I can't get fired up about this. I'm a dog lover, and the alleged incidents certainly sound cruel and horrible, but nothing has been proven. The media has a vested interest in being as sensational as possible, so I'm taking all of this with a grain or two of salt.

As for Vick as a player, sure, he's a rare athlete, but his game has weaknesses. I can't say I care whether he plays or not, because he doesn't play for my team.

It seems likely that he'll be suspended simply for alleged involvement, which I think is wrong. I believe the line is "innocent until proven guilty." If he is found guilty of something I wholeheartedly believe he should face repercussions. Do I think it should end his career? Definitely not. Players have done much worse and missed less time. He didn't beat his wife, he didn't fire a gun in a public place, he didn't harm any human life, he's not cheating the game of football by using performance enhancing substances or point shaving and gambling. It's not proven as of yet that he actually did anything wrong whatsoever. If it is proven that he broke the law, then he should be suspended according to league policy. If not, then he should be allowed to play.

koЯnut
07-26-2007, 09:39 PM
As much as I want to, I can't get fired up about this. I'm a dog lover, and the alleged incidents certainly sound cruel and horrible, but nothing has been proven. The media has a vested interest in being as sensational as possible, so I'm taking all of this with a grain or two of salt.

As for Vick as a player, sure, he's a rare athlete, but his game has weaknesses. I can't say I care whether he plays or not, because he doesn't play for my team.

It seems likely that he'll be suspended simply for alleged involvement, which I think is wrong. I believe the line is "innocent until proven guilty." If he is found guilty of something I wholeheartedly believe he should face repercussions. Do I think it should end his career? Definitely not. Players have done much worse and missed less time. He didn't beat his wife, he didn't fire a gun in a public place, he didn't harm any human life, he's not cheating the game of football by using performance enhancing substances or point shaving and gambling. It's not proven as of yet that he actually did anything wrong whatsoever. If it is proven that he broke the law, then he should be suspended according to league policy. If not, then he should be allowed to play.



I think everyone is entitled to due process and I believe in innocent until proven guilty however....

I firmly believe if a crime, or many crimes are committed on your property by accomplices of yours, you should have to take responsibility.

He had to know one way or another what was going on there. Whether directly involved or indirectly.

tsmo
07-27-2007, 03:31 AM
I can't say I care whether he plays or not, because he doesn't play for my team.




....and what team would that be? :gay:


:)


I think he is done.. but then... look how long it took them to deal with lawrence phillips....

Axenos1
07-27-2007, 04:28 AM
I'm not saying he is completely without fault. I'm not saying I don't believe he was involved.
BUT, I don't care because:
1. He doesn't play for the Packers.
2. I'm not one of those psychos in PETA.
3. His alleged actions have no bearing on the game of football.

Draggon
07-27-2007, 03:54 PM
I'm not saying he is completely without fault. I'm not saying I don't believe he was involved.
BUT, I don't care because:
1. He doesn't play for the Packers.
2. I'm not one of those psychos in PETA.
3. His alleged actions have no bearing on the game of football.
On the actual game on the field? No.
On the League as an enterprise? Yes.
He is at all times, no matter what representing the League and the Falcons and anything he does, doesn't do or allows to happen that relates to him (He is responsible for his property and what goes on there, whether he actually KNEW or not) that has a negative impact on them is a breach of the contract he signed.
Pac-Man Jones was suspended before he was actually indited. The Bears cut Tank just on word that he was pulled over while intoxicated without any notion he would be charged. It's a body protecting it's overall interests (Read: Corporate support and fan base).

mighty
07-27-2007, 04:31 PM
I have seen dumber things to do when your rich but this one takes the Cake!!!

He will be on a football field again - But only after he spends Major time behind bars, Now how much time he gets will determine how old he will be to come back to the game...

MrEfrisk
07-31-2007, 01:15 AM
Vick has made a very bad mistake and now he is going to pay severely for it as he should.

dixonsPA
08-01-2007, 02:07 PM
the guy's done. remember rae carruth? that dude's nfl celebrity didn't turn out so well.

elsappo22
08-01-2007, 06:57 PM
Vick will become the greatest QB in the federal penal league. Hope he understands they don't provide the same protection for the QB that the NFL does.

thecowboy
08-03-2007, 08:44 AM
One of his boys turned on him.

Devone16
08-03-2007, 09:56 AM
He deserves everything he gets. and I hope he doesn't get preferential treatment because he makes millions. I could care less if he is a good quarterback or not I am tired of watching the rich wiggle their way out if trouble and get probation for the same thing that I would spend 2 years in jail for. ON top of that, I own two APBTs and it is hard enough to own one of these dogs without criticism. When he does something like this, it just makes it harder for the true lovers of the breed.

Oh yeah, and as a black man, I hate seeing another black man who does something with himself (even if it is just sports) and blows it because he doesn't have to sense to leave the ignorant ghetto shit alone. Once again he deserves everything he gets.

zeppy
08-03-2007, 03:29 PM
the guy's done. remember rae carruth? that dude's nfl celebrity didn't turn out so well.

Rae Carruth also was charged with murder... slightly different.


But, I would agree with most here in saying that I would be surprised if Vick ever puts on an NFL jersey ever again... and if in some strange circumstance he does, I sure as hell hope it's not a jersey from my team. :usuck:

thecowboy
08-03-2007, 04:12 PM
Oh yeah, and as a black man, I hate seeing another black man who does something with himself (even if it is just sports) and blows it because he doesn't have to sense to leave the ignorant ghetto shit alone. Once again he deserves everything he gets.

As a white man, I hate to see another white man that is so talented like Ted Bundy waste it all by being a serial killer.

What does race have to do with anything?

Axenos1
08-03-2007, 05:16 PM
Rae Carruth also was charged with murder... slightly different.

werd.

RidinLOW
08-20-2007, 06:53 PM
pleaded guilty!!!

sucks for the people doin autodraft and and get him in the 1st or 2nd round. bahaha!

bob_fm
10-03-2007, 05:42 PM
I think his football career in the NFL is over, last I read the Falcons are going after him for money.