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Originally Posted by PistolPoet  They're well within their rights. It's a complicated issue, but the right of law enforcement officers to temporarily secure weapons in the interest of public safety is well-established. |
You are absolutely right, it is okay for them to secure a gun during a stop, but to stop someone just because they have a gun isn't, and to throw someone to the ground is ridiculous
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Originally Posted by PistolPoet That's a silly point then, because clearly registering with a government agency and posting things on the internet are nothing at all alike. I'm registered with the Department of Motor Vehicles, but they don't just give out my address and particulars to just anyone. |
Um what? People use license information all the time against someone, and if you have been on the internet at all you know people do not post their license plates as people can track you down with it. And having a conceal carry license at least in the state of Ohio puts that information in the public light for all who want to go to the courthouse and see who has one can.
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Originally Posted by PistolPoet That's just paranoid speculation. Someone could use your driver's license registration against you. Does anyone? No. |
What? you really don't think someone has used someone else's Driver's license against someone else. Once again, put your driver's license information up online or at least pm it to me and see what I can do with that information.
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Originally Posted by PistolPoet Well obviously you can't. But guns, especially when owned by moron criminals with no firearms training, rust and break down. They get lost, they get swept up by the police during routine law enforcement and destroyed. Eventually their numbers will dwindle. It may take awhile, but it's certainly possible. |
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Originally Posted by PistolPoet Remember that most illegal guns aren't seized after their use in a crime, but before, during other routine arrests. Gang-banger gets popped for slinging crystal on the corner, cops find a revolver tucked in his waistband, that's a gun off the streets. |
statistics please, as you are just making scenarious up to support your views. But I absolutely agree with firearms aren't siezed after a crime, as statistically there aren't that many firearm crimes as you think.
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Originally Posted by PistolPoet Gun control has little to do with crime rates overall, but rather gun crimes. Nations with strong gun control tend to have much lower rates of gun crime, though not necessarily lower rates of crime. |
Why do you keep saying things that only support owning a firearm. You just said that having firearms don't lower crime rates just gun crimes. Which says to me that you are still going to have crimes/deaths even though guns are gone. Kinda like guns don't kill, People do
Jeez it seems you are very uninformed about how the world works, that or you live in a gated community and are married and who's husbands last name is Brady